Use Map Settings (UMS)

anyone here play UMS games? i like evolves, golems, defense, and other games

 

Sure, like 6 years ago.

 

lol. that was sooo long ago

 

Golems and Defence are complete wastes of time. They're awful game concepts, IMO.
Impossible maps are the way forward, and a good RPG can be real fun =]
~Pix~

 

How about Tar Pit defense? That's a good fun game when your just bored and want to waste time... :good:

 

golems is funny lol. but definitely stopped that years ago for lots of reasons.
yeah you gotta despise those cliched defences as well like bunker/pylon/sunken/photon/marine/lurker/ghostwtrigun/tarpit/HGMA etc kind of games. but i actually dont mind competitive like ai or defence f. what IS a great defence map is trigger happy defence. anyone who hasn't tried it can pm me and ill send you the map. you can't miss it.

maps that i do like and excel at (based on experience in USWest):
battlecraft inferno 1.5/rogue-X/rogue-T/rogue-R/paradigm/armaggeddon/fastblack/fastwhite(lol carriers)/tournament---(im slightly unupdated with CBReal's ones. and Reik_sov is my friend's list lol. i have the right to say i used to be near if not the best at inferno 1.5 in the old days @USWest. then again not many people played it seriously nor did the map have many different combo-strategies....)
diplomacy 7.7 <--- pro USSR = rigged DX
diplo civilisation/civilisation world 7.8
diplomacy supergun/guntank crystal
Rise of rome WC final (excallibur is great but has a mineral cheat....thank god few knows)
worms 1.83 <--- one of my friends can counter megaworm easy with a dig....(timing)
rise of egypt
defence f <---- unbeaten unless i get unlucky
particle arena <--- unbeaten ^.^
snipers <----- damn SAers!
pistol duel <--- hate people who unallies
russian roulette <--- roflmfao
hot potato <----- lolololol
musical chairs <------ LOL
changeling/the thing <----- lol "RUN" "SHOOT HIM NOT ME"
who let the zerg out <---- XDDDDD
zoids 3v3
SC tournament prime
micro tournaments
randommicrochallenge
block the gate....
spawn d 5.3
random unit battle (not wars)
300 spartans [1.11] <--- spartans are rigged
mario kart battle
FF7 battle
storm the fort
tug of war (normal/zig zag/marine/build <--- z0mg mass workers + reavers)
faith and destiny rpg
observer dodge

challenge me to some of those or any really cool/new unique rpgs out there! or just anything infact

 

I love Golems...does the name give you a hint? :thumbup: But then again I haven't played SC in a very long time. My computer's broken. Well, my PC. Mac's are gay. Stupid non-compatibility...Evolves I found fun as well. Until there was the first guy to get air units and just did that mass patrol follow thing (before the rush beacons were invented, see)

 

not really. ums don't give score and they don't improve your skills at general gameplay

 

What about micro arena? Thats the only one I remember playing. That helped improve your micro.

Oh and I played Aeon of Strife, and what WarCraft did to that type of game is a travesty.

 

True that, true that. Only in very few cases were “Use Map Settings†really helpful, but most of times, it’s to blow off some steam. Dirty Tank Defense

 

what was that?

 

Aeon of Strike is Dota for starcraft... but it's far from being fun as dota..

starcraft wasnt made to be played with "heroes"

 

Except Aeon of Strife was actually good and had a story while DotA is a piece of shit map with completely unbalanced heroes which was a real problem because it was player vs player not player vs computer like Aeon of Strife.

 

A good map is a fun map.
Dota is fun.

Aeon of Strike is pretty much unplayable.. it has no replay value, (btw it is pvp so it should have a good replay value.. but your hero is like.. an archon or a ling.. so what's the point of playing a map where you can't cast spells and lvl ur hero.. all you can do is upgrade attack and defense.)

the ums of starcraft and warcraft aren't made in the same way..

wc3 was made of RPGs.. you have heroes with spells.. experience, upgrades, items.. everything you want.. but the triggers run much more slowly.. which leads me to my next point...

maybe starcraft can't deal with heroes but it has much faster triggers and a trigger system that is much more versatile..

the conclusion is:

if you want to make a rpg or anything with heroes.. go with wc3...
for everything else (defenses, madnesses, conceptual maps.. etc) starcraft was made for it..

what i mean is.. aeon of strife should be a wc3 map..

to all the starcraft nerds who keep wasting hours making rpg maps for starcraft (and I know there are a lot of these.. they used to be all on staredit.net): GO BUY WC3 GOD DAMNIT! and leave us alone with our uber 1337 experimentations.. lol

off topic: paragon: why did you choose "terran" as a race if your avatar and your sign includes 4 protoss units??

 

dude there are heaps of pwnage starcraft rpgs lol. i mean holy shit@faith and destiny, diablo2 act3, diablo 2 truER, some others cant think of (5 samurais was also a pretty cool rpg except the end....that TOTALLY ruined everything....)

btw why have mario kart race games when you can have the wc3 version!? =D

 

StarCraft has lots of trigger based spells that can be made. In comparison, WarCraft 3 spells are usually repetitive and dull because they all follow the same template and almost nobody does trigger based spells. I've made a bunch (although not in any released maps because I didn't want to spend that much time)

Aeon of Strife (the original one) was Player vs Computer. So if you are thinking of a PvP one, it is a completely different one. Mind you, the last time I played an UMS map was 6 years ago so it is entirely possible that you are talking about a completely different one. Also, it was a fun map because it was difficult but possible to get to the end and you wouldn't always win but it was fun to try to beat it.
DotA is not fun because it is so unbalanced. Pick the rigged ones and you'll do great, pick the shitty ones and you'll do shitty, pick the ok ones and you'll do ok. When the unit you pick in the very beginning determines how well you do, it can't be fun because you aren't really doing anything.


I have Terran as my favorite race because it is.
My Avatar is a Reaver because I really like the texture I did on it.
My signature has 3 Protoss units because we know they will not be in the game and because Zhenyok's carrier is awesome and I textured/partially modeled the shuttle and corsair.

 

i'm not refering to mario kart..

i'm refering to ums that just can't be done on wc3..

like every bounds.. and every fast maps.. (not fastest melee maps.. i mean.. fast maps..) have you ever seen a x2 speed map? well you can do this in wc3.. same with everything that requests weird triggers.. (Reflector, Reflector 2 (thats by me, btw), dodgeball, any "ball" game, etc..)

and yes, rpg on starcraft really blows.. the best starcraft rpg is worse than the crappiest wc3 rpg..

i remember some nerds on staredit.net wasting hours and hours just on their terrain.. while in wc3, in few minutes you can do much better terrain..

and all those "medieval" fans.. who always try to convert starcraft into a middle age epic game while wc3 is just what they are looking for..

what a waste of time..

starcraft map making is for experimental map makers only. for anyone else.. convert to wc3

 

yeah i know about trigger based spells.. honestly.. I'm an expert at making them.. the best one will include the overlord grid system.. which is the first trigger engine I truely mastered.. in fact, me and a friend took it to a totally new level in a pretty experimental arena/ball game that was centered around it..

the problem with these triggered spells is that they are much harder to trigger and use than normal hero spell on ur hero in wc3.. and i don't find wc3 spells boring nor repetitive at all.. look at all the spells in dota..

ohh i think i know which map you are talking about.. i just mixed 2 maps together when i was talking about aeon of strife.. well the PvC is a bit better.. yes.. but it's still a map with almost non replay value.. pretty much like every other starcraft ums

that explains everything.

oh shit.. sry for the double post.. but I guess the pertinence of my comments worth the double post

 

I like some Original SC UMS maps
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I remember, there was this map called "Zombie Attack In Space." i remember that there was a small little base with a beacon in it, and ur supposed to defend the beacon from hordes of "zombies." It was fairly easy until the very end when it got almost impossible. God i wish i still had that map. After my computer broke, it pretty much vanished. (If anyone has that map, plz tell me )

Kings and Knights is a pretty fun map. I was so good at being a king on Kings and Knights that i could my knight 4 fully upgraded units before most kings could get 1 ><. Most of the time i didnt even need a knight. Most people dont like K&K but i thought it was fun

Defense maps were pretty fun, but the AI was always a bit flawed on most maps i played. Marines Defense i think is the most fun, but way too easy.

I remember when i first played a Bound map. Bounds were really challenging and fun. i hope they are able to make bounds in SC2.

My most favorite UMS has to be "The Thing." I loved that map to death. recently though it seems that people are using MHs to see who is the thing. which completely ruins the game.

 

lol. play changeling. same layout as the thing but a billion times better. and mh wont help u

im not referring to you...

even if you can compare that.....it really depends on the perspective D:

you're even worse!....you hypocritical nerd >

OK! ill convert to wc3 with my 128mbram 500mhz P3 (no gfx card) comp =(

i have a few maybe? but not sure if they're zombies. i have stuff like "8-legged-freaks defend the mall" and "infested zerg" stuff but basically same concept lol. want?