U.S Current Economic Situation

I know really believe we made a wrong choice in our president, Obama is spending money into programs and other things we don't have. For every dollar the federal government spends, half is coming from China. Truly it's getting out of hand...
Discuss FTW!

 

China funding is nothing new, Obama's pro socialism doesnt help and 2Can is a gang banger.
discuss

 

im moving to Atlantis

 

Better than giving all your money to Bush and go to a stupid senseless bully war on Irak..
what's really amusing is that you guys call your soldiers "brave" when they go to this won war already.
Anyways, it's not Obama's fault. He has some hereditage problem because of the stump you had as a president before.

 

I love it how people say he "inherited" the problem, which I know he did. Yet, he's not helping at all, in 100 days he has doubled our deficit. So can you not say that he is making situation worse, as I said before spending on things we don't have money for, he should be cutting programs instead of making new ones. As for the war on Iraq yes we won the actual war within weeks we are just there to stabilize. I will not comment on anything else because I don't know much about the war anyway.

 

I think enlistment is the US is one of the dumbest moves anyone can make. But its incredibly brave, whether or not they realise it when they sign up, but to be out there is enough. This is why so many soldiers suffer from PTSD.
Saying it "isnt Obama's fault" i would say is closer to the truth then farther, but not entirely. We look to our president and senate to make the right budget plans and invest our money in the proper area's. Of course if we as a society do not spend, the economy will not bounce back. This is clouded though by the fact that all the USA does is spend. People dont realise this fact. If there is a country that gets hitt with a typhoon, its the USA's tab, like wise if a country "gets out of line" by the outlines we set(bull ****) then we step in. Its because we do not save which is a big reason we are in dept. Yes, G.W. left us in a slump, but it isnt the first time we've been in debt as a country. People need to wise up. The real reason we had the recession was not cause we owed money, its because banks were giving loans to people who could not or did not pay them back. in a nut shell BAM there you go. This is why the EU is passing laws to monitor their banks, among other stupid tyranus like moves.

I honestly dont know all the programs Obama is investing in, but we knew stimulus does not work yet he did it again. They give bail out to companies they dont overlook and i dont trust to begin. He says he was going to pull soldiers out, and now says we need to remain strong on the war in "terror". We are dealing with Korea, only god knows why since its China's problem. China loans us so we can take care of it and not alot may be aware, but we are probably already in Iran. I know people enlisted talking about how they will be shipped to Iran in a few months. Uhm... What? Obama is even talking about REQUIRING health care to every citizen in the states. such BS.

This is what happens when you vote democratic or republic. Whoever was convinced either was a win is already wrapped in the system. The only thing I liked about Obama's campagn was his enthusiasm about renewable energy, which is apparently on hold right now on his "to do" list. Blah.

 

Lombar, considering the fact that I serve in the U.S. Armed forces, I want you to realize your remark about calling our soldiers brave for a 'won war' already.

@Lombar

Our soldiers are brave, both Sailors and Soliders becuase they volunteered to serve, to go to war with America's enemies and to defend the constitution and the American way of life. They never ever ask for anything in return when they go do what they have to do. Doesnt matter what country your in, soldiers are brave becuase they took a step forward and pledged their lives in defence of w/e country they are serving. A Won war? that remark is ignorant, this war isnt a victory, their are soldiers still dying, and families still mourning. Just to double up on what tink said, yes they are brave for enlisting and knowing what can happen to them.

@2can,

Unless you have been watching CNN or watching some conservative / republican News Cast, than of course your gonna hear all the bad Obama's doing. China owns a HUGE portion of the U.S. We have owed money to them since WW2. That is nothing new. Obama is trying a strategy at spending money to reap a bigger profit in the long run. Obama is not a bad president, he is actually connecting with the american people, something most presidents LACK and even congressman. He has heard the American voice and for someone such as myself who VOTED for him, that means alot, since not even bush would hear the common people's voice. You can judge obama in the first year, everyone believed Bush was a good president, and now look where the U.S. is at?

Research, read and arm your brains with knowledge, dont be swayed by the biased media. Read from all sources. No one can say Obama is a bad president, not much would be different even if his opponent won. Give him 2 years and things will change for sure, his positive spin on MOVING forward instead of blaming people is probably the best thing from a president since turning the moon into cheese.

 

He has heard the American voice and for someone such as myself who VOTED for him, that means alot, since not even bush would hear the common people's voice. You can judge obama in the first year, everyone believed Bush was a good president, and now look where the U.S. is at?

What exactly do you mean biased media? If so I would be all for Obama. I don't even watch T.V :/(Besdies the few good show ;D Bones, Dollhouse, Etc.). Anyway, that is nice he has the "connection" with the American people, but that is besdies the whole point. Like I stick to my previous statement in such few days in presidency, he has almost made thge defecit larger than Bush made it his whole term. Besdies the point, not like i liked Bush either :/ Now things look bad for now, we will see what he does further into his term, just things looking pretty grim.

P.S- G.M didn't die woot! lol

 

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guys, this is the clan empire board, this is s'posed to be space junk extreme, not the lounge...

 

clan empire board.
was started by empire member.
nuff said

 

GTFO OUTTA EMPIRE BOARD IF YOU DONT LIKE IT KKTHNX??

(seriously, Clan Empire Board, Clan Empire Member Posted, NUFF SAID)

 

...guys, who the **** is this kiddie, who thinks he's coll by posting the most useless post ever on our board(yes more then bill's im banned!), if you wanna post useless ****, post it in space junk where you belong.
P.S- "just kidding" won't give you a reason either.

 

Lol, I think SOMEONE just gained lots of hatezors

 

yeah i get that a lot

still, what i am saying is, when you start a serious discussion, most of our members probably want in(especially hexgor and kerwyn), so the lounge might be more appropriate

 

Lol, well to be honest, I hate searching space junk n lounge for interesting topics. So i just stick to my own board.

 

not a problem, it was a mere suggestion


now, back to topic

I am still a student, so i dont understand that much about economics, but i believe this is the basis:
- if you spent money, and people spend that money, the economy becomes better

So what is the plan of Obama
- spent a &^%$load of money in America, so US people have more stuff to spent

sounds like a decent theorem to me

 

It doesnt work like that, in some ways, cuase if most of the companies that are selling **** are going out of business than people wont buy ****. And since the media made it a HUUUGE deal, people are now scared to spend money and would rather save money, cuase thats the 'smart' thing to do.

 

Okay, so the point is more in the media then in anything the government can do, right?
so isnt it the governments job to appear to be something so people are eased and buy more stuff?

 

This is how i seen it...


No one even thought about a recession until one brilliant man mentioned the word. Than the news media started with it, making it aware to the american people. After it became talk in local newspapers and things of that sort, the president had to talk about it. Than after that, companies started to lay off people and shut down (GM, Microsoft, Google, and many, many more). Soon, companies were becoming scared and trying to lay off people to save money and states started doing even more extreme budget cuts (In FL, you have to pay a 250+ fee if you get into a car accident to cover EMT and FireFighter as well as Police showing up on scene, costs.) So now, the US makes the recession it's top priority, funny thing was, last year, all the major talk was about Global warming.


In my honest to god opinion, the US and the media by some force greater than themselves, must make some random bull**** up, each summer to keep America on it's feet. I am not saying the recession isnt for real, but, thats what I seen.

Of course more has happend in between and more talks, but i honestly believe, the media and the government needs to make bull**** up to keep everyone on edge.

2 years ago, it was West Nile Virus, than SARS, now this year, its ****ing Swine Flu? 50+ years ago it was a "GLOBAL COOLDOWN" and now its a "GLOBAL WARMING"? I dont believe the media or the government much when it comes to life changing or society altering decisions.

 

@ijffdrie you make my head hurt

@shadow you think the recession is some government conspiracy? nice. thats a sexy thought considering your in the US forces. I will not rule out the possibility of it being staged. It could very well have a hidden agenda made by the central bank. But the fact of whether or not its hear and its effecting business's and people and the economy is a different fact. Media in general is not your enemy. Its people who are ignorant to their media sources which is why people throw around MEDIA as a "problem". Media is one of the best damn things we have in this crappy rust bucket. Its indepenant sites that you should source though. NOT CNN, NEW YORK TIMES, NBC ect. They are all bias in what they report, how they report it.

About Global warming. NOBODY can say whether or not it is or isnt a threat. Bottom line is this planet is billions of years old and only RECENTLY have we documented its climate. Global warming and its discoveries work much like politics. A scientist gets a good story, says he found ice caps melting in the Artic and gets funded money to look into it. This is an example of what occurs, but bottom line is we dont know and cant say and because of this, shouldnt waste our time and effort until we have a foundation we can work from.

West Nile, SARS, Swine flu. These are always issues within 3rd party countries that dont have the medicine or the people are two poor to get treatment. Of course though their deaths will make headliners as an epidemic because it brings funding and money. This isnt to rule out this may or may not be important, its a serious judgement call that only the "experts" can make. And of course if this "expert" has his eyes set on a new house, then you've found your answer. Better safer then sorry right? you decide.