Thor Drop

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Thor Drop

  1. Shadowdragon

    Shadowdragon New Member

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    Start by assuming the Thor can be loaded into a dropship. Now, what you'll need...
    A. two + thors
    B. two + dropships
    C. Ghosts
    D. (optional) three vikings.

    Load your thors/ghost into the drop ships. If you have vikings, put them in air form. Drop the thors in front of the enemy base, forcing the enemy units to chase after it (use the ghost as a spotter/distraction). If the base defense is light, put the vikings in ground mode and wipe the enemy out. If there are to many enemies, simply load the thors into their respective dropships, and make the vikings take to the air. Have all your units run (try to have the vikings cover the drop ships, if possible. Do this every 3-10 minutes. If your lucky, the player will begin to turtle, waiting to kill the thors on return. Return, only this time, bring a separate drop ship loaded with marines (keep it at the side of the base, for now). Drop the thors, repeating the attack as usual. The player should be ready for it by this point, and will attack with most everything he has.
    This time, you don't need to save the thors (most people can't micro THAT well). Hopefully, all the defending units are gone. Drop the marines on the mining operation, and start to kill workers. The player will be stuck trying to kill the thors, so the marines will shred the workers up. The game is pretty much finished by this point. Note, if the enemy has stationary defenses near his workers, you may need to use some vikings to distract them. For example, the vikings can take the AA hit for the dropships, that land to be attacked by the stationary land defenses, allowing the marines to do their job.
     
  2. Outcaster

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    Thor in a dropship .....NOT
     
  3. Shadowdragon

    Shadowdragon New Member

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    Well, they have to be able to move around island maps somehow. Dropship is just a substitute.
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    On second thought, why not the dropship?
     
  4. JimRaynor45

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    I support your idea sir. I think though, based on the size of the thor it should take up all the space in a dropship, but im willing to go with the idea that it could just take 3/4 of the space. Thors are bound to be slow and im sure there is going to be some way to transport them, most likely through a dropship. If thors cant be transported, there probably gonna be stronger and more ranged to compensate. though im sure your gonna be able to transport them.....
    Oh and another idea instead of teching to ghost and thors, is to build mass vikings with transform ability send, them behind enemy base, transform in base, attack workers then if they get attacked, transfrom into air phase and fly away...but your plan is better.
     
  5. Shadowdragon

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    It's hard to tell how useful vikings will be until their price/build time comes out. That's my only real opposition to massed vikings.
     
  6. T-man

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    I agree that Thors will probably be transportable, and that thy should take up 6-8 spots. However, what about a change in Dropship/Overlord/Phase Prism speed change depending on the units in them.
    Say you have a single Marine being rushed around by Dropship, the Dropship would move at full move speed. Then load a Thor instead, and it would take a movement penalty (due to inertia and other things).
    They could either have a "weight" stat, or just base it off of relative fullness, ie. all 8 slots full is the same movement penalty, whether they be two tanks, one Thor, or eight marines.
     
  7. generalrievous

    generalrievous New Member

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    lol I cant imagine alittle dropship being able to hold that big ass thor tbh
     
  8. Chris Benoit

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    I'm willing to bet that the Thor will not be able to be loaded into a dropship. In the case of a water map, one could load a SCV into a dropship, drop it to the desired location, and have it build the Thor.
     
  9. Shadowdragon

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    Building a thor AT the enemies base? Sorry, but that won't work. Like any player is going to wait around and let you build 3-5 thors. Besides, when has size ever mattered to blizzard? If a dropship can't be used, than the unit better have some method of getting over empty space. Otherwise, it will be to slow and to big to survive. After all, you would need to escort it with an entire army to ensure it doesn't get killed before it reaches it's destination. If it can't be moved quickly, or at least through the air, than it'll become the most expensive piece of nothing money can buy.
     
  10. Fenix

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    Yeah, if size mattered, how in the hell do you put two Ultras into a Overmind?

    If a Thor can, and I'm not saying it will, fit into a Dropship, it'll take up all slots, no doubt about that.
     
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    Hehehe...I just had a funny image of the Dropship holding Thor up on a bunch of cables and dropping it on a base :p
     
  12. Fenix

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    LOL!!

    That's awesome. One of our resident artists should make that image.
     
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    didn't you guys know that thor can fly..? uhm.. and jump as well. lol

    im sure it can't be loaded in a dropship.

    yes, load the scv and unload it somewhere on the map (where you plan to rally your troops) then start building the thor there.
     
  14. Wlck742

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    Lol, the Thor looks big enough to just walk across the Pacific Ocean and back.

    Anyways, the Thor should be transportable. Unless they could have a space ship grab them, lift them into orbit, and drop them wherever they wanted to go.
     
  15. GuiMontag

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    you should just transport the scv around, becuase THOR is almost as big as a nexus
     
  16. Wlck742

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    And exactly how would you attack with the thor that you haven't made yet? I don't think any player short of my grandma would let me build something that big in their own base.
     
  17. GuiMontag

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    thats why you have to setup a contain, or expansion.
     
  18. wuffle

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    How about instead of bringing marines in hyou just call them down with ghosts.
     
  19. ArchLimit

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    I actually agree with those who think that the Thor will NOT be transportable. Some of you mentioned that Blizzard has never associated size with transportability, but on the other hand, the Thor really seems to stretch it, especially with the idea that it is probably more a mobile structure than an actual unit.

    Even with Ultralisks in Overlords, there's still that suspended belief just because it's sort of one organic unit in another, and while I totally agree that it stretches the physics of it immensely, I don't find myself goin', "Okay, this is unbelievable."

    Also, a Thor, given its power, probably would almost need a bit of a handicap in the respect. It's MEANT to bust down doors, good for those well guarded chokepoints 'n what not. So to be able to drop them within an enemy base just seems a tad bit overboard to me. I think given it's devastating power, it would only be right that you drop a heavily protected SCV into the enemy base, which would be a fun tactic anyway and add a strategic element to the game.
     
  20. qOcOp

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    u could take him apart to pieces and put him back together. but it will not cost anything to put him together and its a little bit faster than the first time u made him.