the xel'naga the burning legion?

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by ijffdrie, Mar 27, 2008.

the xel'naga the burning legion?

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by ijffdrie, Mar 27, 2008.

  1. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    i know it is a very popular theorie that the xel'naga are in fact the titans from warcraft, but try to look at it from the other side;
    -the xel'naga searched for a being they can perfect, just like Kil'jaeden does for the burning legion
    -both the demons and the xel'naga creations had unity of mind
    -the xel'naga left some giant space cannons, something that is inappropriate for a nomadic race
    -instead of keeping the protoss tribes apart they let them almost destroy each other
    -the zerg and the undead have the same basic attack plan, battle tactics and biological advantages(although blizzard could just be unoriginal)

    your thougts?

    p.s. this is a crackpot theorie
     
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    Meee New Member

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    What do you mean by demons having a unity of mind? Zerg are completely dependant on overmind (now kerrigan), maybe through cerebrates/overlords, but still they need someone to give them every order.
    In case of Burning Legion on the other hand, Infernal is the only creature incapable of thinking for itself. All other creations of Legion, including the forerunners - fel stalkers, can think on their own and are actually rather smart.

    No doubt there are also betrayals and fighting for domination between some of higher ranked demons
     
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    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    yes, but no one can deny anything that sargeras says
     
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    Meee New Member

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    I believe that they, in fact, can. In theory. In practice that would be a very very painful experience.
     
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    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    you could be right, but the xel'naga didnt have unity of spirit either, but they made their species have it
     
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    OFC some of the aspects "go again" in their games, especially themes like Creator, Races etc. will always "go again"
     
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    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    i will rephrase it a little better

    both the xel'naga and the burning legion reformed existing species to make them stronger and bind them to them,
    both the xel'naga and the burning legion tried to make their underspecies a single consciousness or at least bind them to a more powerfull master(succubus, felgaurd, felhound, infernal, voidwalker, zerg, protoss, the doomgaurds, orcs and possibly phoenixes are an exeption)
    the tactics of the zerg and demon underspecies are just about the same
    the xel'naga left some very big guns back in the koprulu sector
     
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    Meee New Member

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    err... are we talking Xel'naga - Legion, or Xel'naga - Titans ?
     
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    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    xel'naga legion

    why?
     
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    umm... nothing
     
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    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    well at the other side of the spectrum of the titans is the burning legion...
     
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    I think that you can chalk this one up to blizz unoriginality. And it's not that blizz isn't original per se, it's the fact that the basic background to the story has been rehashed a lot, because it's very popular.

    If that WERE the case? I think there would be mixed results. Some people would be like "WTF WARCRAFT SUCKS" or "Lame fucking plot hole". Yep. Only those two choices. xD
     
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    I think it's just Blizzard being unoriginal (not that it's a bad thing).

    PS Where did the Xel'naga leave space connons?
     
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    That would be crazy, if the worlds were actually linked. I think i would give up on blizzard all together.
     
  15. evolvtyon

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    wOw this is bad..

    I there, although I'm not current with sc<>wc theories, however i have to say, this one is really bad. Following the topics given by ijffdrie.

    ->First of all The xel'naga are a race, not a demon under the orders of a fallen titan; furthermore Kil'jaeden [the deceiver] doesn't aim for a perfection of a race, he seeks it for assimilation in the burning legion ranks, just at it is. This is why he seeks only that can best serve the legions purpose.

    ->xel'naga "creations" as you say [they're actually proteges] didn't had unity of mind.

    -The protoss were independent conscious beings who communicated by psionic emanation [or telepathy].

    -The zerg are [please notice the ARE] also independent thinkers, the only difference is that a higher hierarchy creature watches over their impulses, guiding them through psionic emanations[yes, also, this is the link between protoss and zerg]

    If you pay attention to details you'll d notice the celebrates questioning about kerrigan's suspicious behavior[like zasz that cool celebrate], only that the overmind stands once more, only to control the celebrates impulses.

    Even the lesser zerglings are independent, if they lack control they'll eat, kill, hunt, what ever the original creature [pre-zerg assimilation] did.

    The legion and zerg, do NOT [and i mean, do not have "about the same tactics"] if not let us see:

    -zerg tactics are based on assimilation and evolution of the assimilated race to better serve the swarm;

    --their ultimate goal is to match the protoss strength both mind [psionic] and body [direct combat like a better carapace denser bones].

    ---zerg attacks with breeds born from larva [on with the genetic code of the intended creature is inputed]

    -legions tactics are based on will bending [of possible helpful races] through one agent [Kil'jaeden].

    --their ultimate goal is to destroy everything the titans created, under the command of sargas [a fallen titan who got corrupted by the ways of those he was instructed to imprison].

    ---legions attacks with beings.

    ->Giant cannons? you mean like the xel'naga temple found in BroodWar that works as a weapon against the zerg?

    If you're talking about that, why is it inappropriate for a nomad race?I mean.. you rule the universe so damn, if i want a weapon of massive power built here i damn will.

    Anyway, since i don't know what you mean, I'll leave it blank.

    ->Yet again the xel'naga worked to UNITE the tribes on Aiur [thats why they showed them selfs, as an act of desperation] but despite their efforts they fell apart separating those who though the future belonged to the protoss alone, and those who where sympathetics to the xel'naga guidance.
    Their presence had submerged the tribes of Aiur in war so
    as any superior race would they set off.

    -> Again, zerg and undead are not alike.


    -Zerg work upon genetic code.

    --Zerg aim to reach the protoss psionic level.

    ---Zerg exploit others race weaknesses and tries to work from within, first launching spores into space and infesting.


    -Undead work upon magic.

    --Undead are a bunch of semi-alive-while-dead creatures under the command of the legion aiming to fulfill sargas quest.

    ---Undead attacks in endless waves recycling the dead enemy's into they're advantage resorting to magic is some occasions.

    My thoughts are, who ever is a fan [not fanatic] of either starcraft or warcraft and pays a little attention while playing, will realize that any theories aiming to link these two universes is madness [and not sparta].

    NOTE
    -> Titans[early beings, even earlier than gods who watched us from the olimpus]

    -mythological references

    --domain of the magic and occult

    Honestly, that theories must be popular because of its low IQ [just like that sig]

    I mean, anyone above 0,1 IQ [yeah, even people below 50 IQ can understand this] knows the proper way to write.

    leet [1337] speek as it says [or chat] is terminology used either to save time or to speed up chat times in a game.
    I think anyone with an IQ above 50 would understand that.
     
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  16. Darth_Bane

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    Evol wow you could have made like 10 different posts in the time it probably took you to type that but yes you are correct you deserve a POWER UP!!!! for your insiteful thoughts.
     
  17. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    evo, you certainly win, you get a powerup, and you got the last part of your post from my sig, didnt you?
     
  18. Nickalisk

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    Certainly would be an interesting twist. :p