The Fate of Daggoth

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by Deadpool, Aug 12, 2007.

The Fate of Daggoth

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by Deadpool, Aug 12, 2007.

  1. Deadpool

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    The Fate of Daggoth

    Daggoth's fate after the events in Brood War is unknown. It is never truly stated if he was one of the Cerebrates involved in the new Overmind's creation; if he were, he would be dead as the new Overmind was killed. But this is inconsistent with what Kerrigan said in Episode IV: "Apparently, many of the renegade Cerebrates, commanded by Daggoth, have merged into a new Overmind. Fortunately, the creature is still in its infant stages. It can't control the Swarm yet, but Daggoth and the others still have control over most of the Broods. The two Cerebrates you killed here were part of Daggoth's forces." This dialogue implies that Daggoth has not merged into the new Overmind. As Kerrigan controls the entire Swarm at the end of the Brood War, then Daggoth is either dead, or greatly weakened and unable to pose a threat.

    I found this information pretty intresting what do you guys think happened or will happen to him in SC2 maybe he'll become some super Cerebrate and it never seemed he liked Kerrigan so mayb he'll try to kill her and maybe he'll become so powerfull hes gonna become a much different looking cerebrate that dousnt havta only relie on his Swarm mayb hes gonna be able to move and attack maybe hes gonna be able to morph into different zerg units
     
  2. IO

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    Daggoth was the swarms elder cerebrate and thus was most likely the most powerful, i think he is still around but in a far weakened state, it was said on starcraft wiki that there are still a few cerebrates free of kerrigans control but they are scattared across the sector now and after the Brood war tensions between kerrigan and them is most likely extremely high but not at a point of a second brood war yet as kerrigan possbily feels that after the brood war they no longer pose of threat and may infact to atempting to get them back into the main body of the swarm
     
  3. Isidoros

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    Daggoth was the chief of Tiamat brood, wasn't it?
     
  4. IO

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    True but he was also one of the first cerebrates made by the overmind and considered second in command,
     
  5. Deadpool

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    heres the history of Daggoth if it helps at all

    Daggoth is the highest ranking Cerebrate and the leader of the Tiamat Brood in the StarCraft universe. Tiamat is the largest and most powerful Brood within the Zerg Swarm[1].

    Daggoth is one of the strongest willed Cerebrates, often advising or even issuing orders to other Cerebrates[2]. During the Overmind's temporary "illness" after the death of Zasz, Daggoth effectively replaced it until the Overmind revived. He also took over the Swarm after the Overmind's death, although he could not maintain total control of the Zerg; Infested Kerrigan was able to break free and control a Brood of her own.

    Daggoth advised the Overmind's newest Cerebrate (the player), in charge of Kerrigan's chrysalis, and his aid extended to "donating" Hunter Killers to the new Brood to assist in Kerrigan's protection during and after her incubation.

    Upon the arrival of the chrysalis at the planet Char, its psionic emanations drew the attention of Arcturus Mengsk, who dispatched General Edmund Duke to recover it. The new Cerebrate's forces defeated Duke, but Daggoth ordered the Cerebrate to hold its forces while Daggoth's Tiamat Brood pursued them.

    Upon hatching, Kerrigan immediately began a quest to empower her psionic abilities. Doing so required her to infiltrate a Terran science vessel, the Amerigo, and collect information on the Ghost programs. While Zasz accused Kerrigan of putting her own whims ahead of those of the Overmind, Daggoth supported her mission by once again donating Hunter Killers. With the elite shock troops of the Tiamat Brood at her side, Kerrigan was able to recover the data she sought and increase her powers greatly. Kerrigan's new psionic powers enabled her to detect the presence of Protoss on Char, which even Zasz had not been able to do. Discovered, Tassadar contacted her and challenged her to single combat. Kerrigan accepted.

    The duel turned out to be a distraction. While she sought Tassadar, Zeratul, the Dark Templar Prelate, slew Zasz. When Kerrigan heard about this, she gloated, until she realized that Zeratul's attack had permanently slain the Cerebrate, somehow silencing the Overmind and driving the Garm Brood insane. The primary Hive Clusters were being threatened, and Daggoth ordered the culling of the Garm Brood. As an up-side to the attack, the Overmind was able to lift the location of Aiur from Zeratul's mind as they touched minds during Zasz's death.

    The Overmind travelled to Aiur in order to defeat and assimilate the Protoss, leaving Kerrigan behind to hunt down any remaining Protoss on Char. Daggoth accompanied the Overmind with the new Cerebrate, and later fought the Protoss and Jim Raynor in what would be the Overmind's final battle.

    With the Overmind dead, Daggoth and Kerrigan jockeyed for power over the weakened Zerg. Daggoth ordered the formation of a new Overmind from the union of many Cerebrates. The new Overmind was weak, but if it came to maturity, it would gain control over all the Zerg in the Koprulu Sector, including Kerrigan. In the meantime Daggoth commanded most of the Zerg and was the acting leader for the majority of the Brood War.
     
  6. SirBaron

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    That's from the StarCraft Wiki, right?
     
  7. DontHate

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    eh, i doubt daggoth will play any major part in sc2.
     
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    wow thanks for the information Deadpool
     
  9. Cerebrate

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    This is possible too ofc, I really are anxious to know Starcraft 2 story line now so many diffrent sides now:

    Terran:

    Raynor's Raiders,
    Terran Dominion
    UED forces (possibility)

    Protoss:

    Protoss survivors
    Conclave remnants (possibility)

    Zerg:
    Kerrigans swarms
    Tiamat Brood under Daggoth (possibilty)
    Other or New broods against Kerrigan (possibility)

    Xel'Naga:
    Xel'Naga originals
    Hybrid forces
    Terran/Protoss/Zerg forces co-operating Xel'naga (possibility)
     
  10. BoydofZINJ

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    All celebrates and swarms status are truely unknown. It is the highest probability that Daggoth would have been the driving force to become the "newest" overmind. Broodwar mentioned several celebrates had to merge to become the Overmind, so I am sure Daggoth was part of them. Why? The Overmind was power and leadership and if Daggoth wanted power and leadership why not be part of the new Overmind. However, maybe he knew his place and stayed a Celebrate knowing that being part of the Overmind would destroy his personality and his own being - even if the Overmind never died! He would never be Daggoth again and Daggoth liked being Daggoth ?

    However, the celebrate Daggoth was craft. Who knows if the destruction of the new Overmind is the destruction of Daggoth.
     
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    I just remember something: all cerebrates are, is a chunk of the overmind made free and thus have the same flesh and biochemistry as the overmind. This is most likely the reason why cerebrates must merge to from secondary overminds. This unique bond between overmind and cerebrate also makes it biologicly impossible for any cerebrate to go against the overmind's orders and also allows each cerebrate to hold within him all the knowloge that was the overmind. Daggoth was powerful and the only cerebrate that could command other cerebrates, at the time the others needed a good leader powerful enough to stand in the overminds place that leader was daggoth plus as further evidence that he was not merged into the second overmind:
    Kerrigan referenced many times of cerebrates UNDER DAGGOTH's control after the second overmind had already been formed thus it would be impossible for daggoth to be part of the overmind if he is commanding the forces that are guarding it.

    Plus: daggoth was the overminds loyalist servent and as i said before he is biologicly incapable of objecting to the overmind's orders and thus there is very low chance he would "want" power.
     
  12. Deadpool

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    yup
     
  13. Deadpool

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    he wasnt in the new overmind he was the 1 that told the other cerebreates to make a new 1 but he wasnt in it
     
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    I'm betting that Daggoth will be involved in the SCII story at some point. Maybe Kerrigan will have to take him out to control his broods.

    Either that or he has settled down and become a monk at a Protoss temple.
     
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    Zerg don't have much free-will, aside from kerrigan, wheather Daggoth was part of the new overmind or not, depends on they way things are done in such a situation, perhaps, the most senior cerebrate is to remain apart from the new overmind, incase the new overmind for whatever reason, dies or the union fails, so that someone is left to maintain control and retain all the knowledge from all of the zerg's history. as well as so that the new overmind has a capable and experienced 2nd in command.

    But I was in a discussion about this before, and I think and I hope he'll return, perhaps he'll give some more resistance to Kerrigan and be a thorn in her side, albeit an important thorn which distracts her enough while the big boys do some damage to her and her broods.
     
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    Canada, eh?
    I'm thinking Daggoth will help in the downfall of Kerrigan but since he and his brood are Zerg, he'll get annihilated as well.
     
  17. ShdwyTemplar

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    I have a more in depth idea that Duran and Daggoth are working together. They are the perfect entities to do it. Ya... I would explain but my thread on Duran explains this already.
     
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    according to some interview thing on SClegacy.com the people answering it(at blizzcon) stated that brood war was about the civil war within the zerg, and that kerrigan had gained full control and that the other cerebrates were dead, i don't remember(this was early today, and it is late now) but they might've hinted that that may not completly be the case, that or it was 1 of the other hints they gave at other questions and i just got them mixed up, but they said the other cerebrates are dead so yeah, maybe they were using it loosly, as i think there are cerebrates that serve kerrigan, so why would she kill them off as well, ya know?
     
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    He's probably still around keeping a low profile ready to strike

    I have to say Protosscommander you are exceptionally skilled at copy and paste. It is all you have been doing for the last hour.
     
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    New Metzen interview. He is dead like all the others. Question answered. :p