Terrans the WORST race???

I know this is long, so please bear with me. With what blizzard has revealed so far about the protoss and the zerg, i can't help but feel like terrans are getting the short end of the stick. I know blizzard has a lot of experience in balancing rts games and that they brought in pro gamers to help test the balance issues and this game is geared toward the pro gamer, so it has to be as balanced as possible, but they do get it wrong sometimes (such as druid of the talon vs orc in wc3). This is the beef i have with the matchups:

Terran vs Protoss:
To put it simply, terrans are screwed. Organic units are just as useless as in the first starcraft because the medics cant heal fast enough to be of any help and ghosts only come late game and have no useful ability besides lockdown, and thats situational. you generally only built 1 - 3 marines to take care of that pesky worker they sent to scout you. that left the factory units. vultures and siege tanks were your bread and butter, with goliaths coming later as the carriers came. they were the only units that could inflict enough damage fast enough and be effective. theres now one problem with this: immortals. sige tanks, or whatever those things were that got killed by the immortals in the demo, are confirmed to be in the game and were shown to be worthless against immortals. we all know that the balancing isnt finished yet and that they cheated in the demo, but they cheated on the mothership energy and stuff like that, why would they have a reason to cheat on immortals killing siege tanks? and assuming vultures or something like them are still in the game, those would be worthless too (im assuming that the mines are strong enough to set of the immortals special shield). the new dark carrier the protoss have also perfectly counters the terrans. it has that shield that blocks ground to air attacks, making goliaths useless. so if goliaths and other ground units are useless against them, the only other choice is to mass air to air units. but wait, the protoss have the pheonix. the pheonix has the immolate thing. who could ask for anything more to take out masses of air units. so basically, reavers and stalkers own barracks units, immortals own factory units, carriers own all but mass air and pheonixes own mass air. and their units can teleport and the charge helps the zealot to the siege tanks faster. any questions? im not even going to mention psionic storm or if they have a unit with the disruption web the corsair had in the first one to neutralize static defenses.

Terran vs Zerg:
This is going to be shorter because we havent seen much about either of these two races, but it seems terran strategy is screwed again. why even bother to use the marine medic firebat combination anymore, when they can just morph to banelings and blow your marines up in one shot. id like to see a medic try to heal that. and siege tanks are useless yet again against the zerg. why be in siege mode at all? they dont have to take the pot shots and run up to you, they just open up a nydus worm within the minimum firing range of the tanks and let loose the zerglings unharmed. what? you have support for the tanks? send banelings through instead and nothings gonna survive.

Protoss vs Zerg:
I know this isnt about terran, but instead of dropping dragoons or siege tanks on a cliff behind an enemys mineral patch, just tech hard to stalkers, run to the enemies base, and teleport up the cliff and proceed to take out whatever you want to.

I know we havent really seen anything of the other two races. All im saying is terran had better get some sweet units, maybe some really cheap units, but at the very least a hard counter to this crap. Blizzard, plz step up and make the terran awesome. I know you can do it.

 

oh im sure they will as mentioned in the other threads it's impossible to compare anything atm.

however i thought protoss was the worse race out of the 3 lol. for pros anyways. unless very very very late game. and terrans were the best if you know how to manage and zerg has the most potential left to develop. well in my opinions anyways lol. but terrans were so hard to control "perfectly", especially for non-pro players....all the confuzzle with seperating medics from men and everything else, and barracks building so quickly you had to have super apm in order to maintain your macro after spending all your efforts in the micro to keep your army alive and efficient~!

i really hope they make terrans slightly more user friendly ^_^ maybe a unit that isnt all too useless massed by themselves lol (zergs = hydralisks, protoss = dragoons) (terran = goliaths?)

 

I have so much faith in Blizzard it's silly. I can't say that about any other game developer but lets face it, they have the only perfect track record in gaming right now aside from maybe Bungie; though they are sell outs. I believe Blizzard will build off what they have learned about RTS in the past 10 years and from their experience in pro-gaming, in order to make the most balanced and easy/fun game to play ever.

 

It is far too early to compare since we only know about 25% (or less) of the other two and everything is subject to change.

 

Well, this is SC2, not Sc1.

One thing that is for sure is, that Protoss in Sc2 does seem very strong and imbalance. Imbalance that is, if you put them against any race in SC1. Simply put, Protoss in Sc2 will wipe the ground against either Terran or Zerg in Sc1. But this is SC2 we are talking about. We basically know all the cool new toys that Protoss has recieved. But, we know basically nothing about the Terran and Zerg.

So don't worry, everything is going to be fine. Once Blizzard releases more info about Terran and Zerg, I'm sure we won't have to worry about this issue.

 

don't double post. terrans aren't the worst. there IS NO WORST! they are all equal

 

It is way too early to be saying stuff like this since we have no idea what the terrans are gona have. They may end up with the hybrid and drop the hammer on everyone

 

haha, and we did see the power of the nuke in the demo =P

 

yea that too. THEY COME DOWN SO FAST X_X

 

Errr, how did I make a double post.
Does anyone know how to delete it?

 

only a mod can delete it (im guessing) and if they do you lose like 50 minerals or something like that.

 

I was having some problems posting the other day. I had to reload the page and it would post it twice if I sent it again. I've had to go back and delete a few. Just hit remove at the top of your post.

 

Thanks alot. owerup:
I just deleted it.

 

Hahahaha we don't even know most of what the terrans have. This is pure conjecture and not grounded in any actual facts. No offense but Blizzard will balance the game.

 

i like the timer for the nuke. in the demo, there were 2 red rectangles that got closer to the center of the designated point. and when they reached the middle, boom shaka laka!

 

Or rather there were three red triangles. But yes, it was cool.

 

I have to agree that if TvP strategy is going to be the same, the Terrans are in for a rough time. But no use speculating.. Who knows maybe the Terrans will become more offensive, Reaper raids etc. Reapers can do the exact same things as your feared Stalker tech, and I'm guessing they can be aquired earlier on.
Still, no use gauging win or loss possibility at this stage..

 

Now this is just theorycrafting. Let me have a shot at it.

Reapers replace the firebat(you see flame throwers in the leaked vid), so they are presumably not too far up the tech tree. Terran masses reapers and raids the mineral line, flamethrower melts all workers Protoss or Zerg in less than a second. Protoss and Zerg can't make any of the fancy stuff mentioned in the opening post because they never have money for it. Terran wins every game. GG

But seriously Orcanash, relax. It's all gonna be alright. Unless immortals can somehow magically force all of your siege tanks to attack them and nothing else, it won't be as exaggerated as in the demo in real games. When they release all the stuff on Terran, you're gonna end up laughing yourself silly. You'll probably go around giggling non-stop all day long and end up getting slapped by people around you. Just be patient.

Welcome to the forums btw.

 

People who are good will win, people who suck will lose. Simple.

 

An here I was thinking I would have a shot for once. :'(