Terran is not OP - I'll prove it.

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Strategy Discussion' started by triarii3, Jun 27, 2010.

Terran is not OP - I'll prove it.

  1. triarii3

    triarii3 New Member

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    Remember the time when you beat someone straight up in a ladder game and your opponent says "[your race/unit] is unbalanced and OP" and then rage quits? hahaha

    I am a terran player myself and I hear so many people crying about how over powered terran is...it's really not...those cry about "omg marauders OP and omg tanks are OP" they don't really know terran unit compositions and don't even play Terran.

    So my advise on how to beat terran?...is to play terran.
    "to beat your enemy to have to know your enemy"
    Learn Terran Build Orders and transitions....and the next time you play against terran...you';ll be able to read his mind set like a textbook.

    I think the same goes for all the other races.

    I mean why is TheLittleOne so good? he plays every race...and KNOW every race. He is able to predict opponent's actions by putting himself in his opponent's shoes.

    Stop complaining about OP terran when you lose...it's like a slap to a good player's face when you discredit his skills and attribute your loss to unbalanced game mechanics
     
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    Kaaraa Space Junkie

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    You didn't prove anything. All you did is rant about noobs who blame their lack of skill on the game's supposed lack of balance. News flash: People who bitch and moan when they lose have been around for as long as the idea of competition. If the trash talking is bothering you so much that you can't enjoy the fact that you're whooping someone's ass in a computer game, then just blacklist them.

    [OT]Take it easy with the posting, and please read the forum rules. You've created three different threads to promote your YouTube account in the span of 40 minutes - I'm pretty sure you've broken three rules already.[/ot]
     
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    ^ Umm... this is not another post promoting his youtube account. Can't you see it's in his sig?
     
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    **Off Topic** Means that it does not relate to the thread. **Off Topic**
    Yeah, Terran is not OP, but give some argumentation, becuase i could not even read what strategy some found OP, since both Tanks and Marauders have many counters. Zealots, Zerglings, for terran: better placement until air.
     
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    First of all, you proved absolutely nothing in your post titled, "Terran is not OP - I'll prove it"

    All you listed is some personal anecdotes and some completely useless advice.

    No, it's not necessary to play the race to learn how to beat them. In fact, you won't learn anything unless you can play the second race as well as you can play your first race. There's an overwhelmingly large number of pros who play only one race and hardly ever touch the others.

    As for cries of overpowered, it's very difficult to make such judgments since the beta has been out for such a short amount of time. If somebody does call OP, understand that they're just frustrated because they haven't personally found a solution to the problem yet.

    All part of the game.
     
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    useless thread...

    plus terran rarely wins SC2 tourneys.
     
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    yeah, if they switch to terran and suddenly start winning a lot more games... that just proves terrans ARE OP.

    TLO is very good... but he's also not the best. not a great example there, either.
     
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    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    A single example is not proof. Angry quitters are not the most valid hypothesis sources.
    You weren't able to proof a theory that didn't exist.

    Since I am the nice guy on this forums, you still get a cookie and punch though.
     
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    Terran's not OP! it just requires less skill (I'm kidding)

    pfft, people were crying about Toss not too long ago, and I'm pretty sure that Zerg's doing the best in Korea... so really, Terran can't be that OP. I find that mech is a little stronger than it maybe should be but not enough to attribute a win to the racial difference. And then again, it's probably because I haven't gotten used to countering it yet.

    "We are seeing win/loss ratios (when you factor in skill) of as little as 6% between each of the races. This is a great place for us to be during a beta, when players are still learning the races and we are still making a lot of changes. In general we believe that Terrans are still a little weak against Protoss. The other match ups are too close to call and (according to our current numbers) are within 1% win/loss" http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25135303723&postId=251325818783&sid=5000#0

    Situation report for patch 11. Proof that Terran wasn't imba. I doubt that Blizz would nerf/buff so much that they became imba.
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    BMW Nazca C2
     
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    I agree with the first part, but in your opinion who is better than TLO? KHB, David Kim? I don't think there is much breathing room between the 3.
     
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    TLO is good and creative but isn't consistent enough, he doesn't have a solid game/build. I don't think he's the best but he's damn good.

    Koreans haven't really started playing SC2 yet, just wait. the best North American player is only a B+ rank, the best European ranked player is only a A-. All A+ players are Koreans, there is a big gap between the game play in SC1, i can only imagine what they can do in SC2. I've played a 2v2 against Slayer_BoxeR in a WCG tourney, almost a decade ago. SB did not have a partner, so he asked the audience for a ringer. My teammate and I destroyed his partner and he took both of us on his own for a good 20min, and ended up winning. He was coordinating 2 attacks at the same time. He had tanks, marines, medics and turrets posted in front of our bases while nuking our asses.
     
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    ...people who have beaten him in tournaments? i would consider whitera and idra to both be better than TLO. funny how you only mention 3, there's tons of top level tournament players, and they're all well above the level of david kim. he may be Blizzard's best playtester and balance designer, but that's still nothing compared to the top gaming league players.
     
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    The Little One is pretty good considering hes random.
     
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    actually he's concentrating on terran now, from what i've heard.
     
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    Saying that if you beat somebody once you are better than them for sure is not smart. I don't think I need to elaborate more on that. As for it being funny that I only mentioned 3 names, I really don't find it hilarious, just because I thought my point would sink in with just a few names mentioned. On topic though, I know there are many good players, but really the best I've heard of in SC2 so far is KHB Who IMO would wipe the floor with White-Ra and Idra. But that's just my opinion.
     
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    once? lol, whitera has consistently beaten TLO in at least 3 separate tournaments. i'm not sure how many times Idra has faced off against TLO but i have to say that idra is consistently better.

    and who is KHB? does he go by another name? is he another one of Blizzard's internal testers? i've never seen that name in any SC2 tournament. all the replays i could find were pretty old... as far as i can tell, he was a good player at the beginning of the beta but when many of the pro SC1 players started playing SC2 more, he was completely outclassed, just like david kim.

    and yeah, that's why your point probably didn't sink in very well. the names you mentioned weren't exactly the best or current.
     
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    I wasn't aware that WhiteRa had beaten TLO ever. TBH I just thought WhiteRa wasn't very good because of his unwillingness to go a different route when his Void Ray technique fails. Also, yeah idk if TLO and idra have gone against each other. As for KHB, he is known as king hill billy, and he was extremely popular. I have never seen him lose, but I'm sure he has before. Every time he played David Kim, it was just one-sided (in his favor), but that isn't very impressive to you, so that probably isn't a good example. IMO he is the best. :)
     
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    if you've never seen him lose, maybe he just never uploads the replays where he does. still, the point is that i've never actually seen him play on a professional league/tourney and all the replays i can find on youtube are months old, i.e. before many of the pro gamers really decided to switch to SC2.
     
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    terran never wins in tournaments.