Starcraft cheat messes up Zerg

Discussion in 'StarCraft Original' started by natmanhan, Feb 12, 2009.

Starcraft cheat messes up Zerg

Discussion in 'StarCraft Original' started by natmanhan, Feb 12, 2009.

  1. natmanhan

    natmanhan New Member

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    There is one problem I have noticed with the cheat code "operation cwal." It reverses the game balance. Not throws it off, reverses it. It makes the protoss and terran produce faster than the zerg when they're supposed to produce slower because it speeds up terran training, protoss warping, and zerg mutating but not the zerg lava spawn rate, which is a key part of zerg unit production and has no slowed equivalent for terran and protoss. So I think the cheat should be revised to that it speeds up zerg lava spawn as well to keep some consistency in the game.
     
  2. kuvasz

    kuvasz Corrections Officer

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    Aren't cheats created to help debug a game? And only left in for people to fool around for 5 minutes?

    There's no need to 'balance the cheat'. It even sounds ridiculous.
     
  3. Lobsterlegs

    Lobsterlegs Guest

    Mhahahahahahahhahahahahhahahah.... phew..
    This must be the craziest sh*t I've heard in a long while.
     
  4. EonMaster

    EonMaster Eeveelution Master

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    I got a simple solution.

    Just don't use zerg when using that cheat ;)
     
  5. Gasmaskguy

    Gasmaskguy New Member

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    I got a simpler solution: Don't cheat (and expect balance...).
     
  6. Seradin

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    yes i too agree with this mans opinion, cheating should be balanced for all players so that all aspects of the game are balanced for the professional scene.
     
  7. kuvasz

    kuvasz Corrections Officer

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    ...it's already balanced for the professional scene.
     
  8. Gasmaskguy

    Gasmaskguy New Member

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    I think Seradin was making a joke kuvasz.
    (well for his sake I hope so... :p)
     
  9. Seradin

    Seradin New Member

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    haha, hard to tell isnt it?

    i should just put /sarcasm.
     
  10. kuvasz

    kuvasz Corrections Officer

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    It was gnawing at the back of my head you know...

    Meh I'm already used to this thing so I won't lose any sleep over it. Plus the seriousness of the thread allows for such posts :p
     
  11. TiNK[E]

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    awww shucks, ok guys, bring sc back to the drawing board!
     
  12. natmanhan

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    My point is perfectly legitimate. Your immature replies won't change that. The cheat makes the zerg the slowest race in unit production. They're supposed to be the fastest. Understand? Reality bites.
     
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  13. EonMaster

    EonMaster Eeveelution Master

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    your complaining because a cheat changes gameplay...how exactly are we supposed to take it seriously.
     
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    And cheats are not designed for balance.

    Cheats were designed, as others pointed out, to imbalance the game and to allow the player to experience what THEY want in the game. They do not need balance. And since it is single-player only, if it makes it harder, good, because I WANT a harder match.

    And there is another way - PLAY MULTIPLAYER!
     
  15. natmanhan

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    How about not ganging up on and being total assholes to a new member of your board. Apparently I really am cannon fodder. Since you can't do that I don't know how I'm supposed to take you seriously.

    I'm not complaining because the cheat changes gameplay or balance. That's to be expected. I'm complaining because it makes the zerg the slowest producing race. They're supposed to be the fastest, so when all are increased, they should still be the fastest, not the slowest. I don't know why that's such a difficult concept to wrap your head around.

    What problem, exactly, do you have with saying that with cheats on, the zerg should be the fastest producing race when the cheat is supposed to speed up unit production of all races and the zerg are normally the fastest?
     
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  16. EonMaster

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    well, I wouldn't know much about issues with cheats because I don't use them.

    Only thing I can say is if it hurts the zerg so much, don't use that cheat when playing zerg, because with so much time going into SC2 and Diablo3, Blizzard isn't going to worry about a problem a cheat code causes, considering it's only useable in single player.
     
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    just build more hatcheries....like 100 of them, it wouldnt take that long...

    and y use cheats in the first place? Just play the game normally.

    edit: were not ganging up on a new member...we just think that arguing about cheating is stupid.
     
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  18. natmanhan

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    You're assuming too much. I play the game normally 90% of the time. I just happened to observe this when I did use cheats at one time and it bugs the heck out of me. Don't tell me you've never used cheats, because I'm certain that you've tried it at least once.

    I don't see why it'd be that difficult for Blizzard to improve the consistency a bit, if they really are the master game creators people make them out to be.

    That said though, I can see where SC2 would be a higher priority. You guys have a point about that. But it seems like a lot that they patch is fairly minor issues anyway. Why not address this one?

    Of course, if they'd fix the Valkyrie bug, I'd appreciate that more.
     
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  19. overmind

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    What exactly should blizzard do about it? Fixing it in a patch would be harder than you think and time consuming, 10 years in and there are still bugs that are not fixed, actual bugs not just an unbalanced cheat code...
     
  20. MobileInfantry

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    Well I'm not trying to be negative here, but its not going to happen. This is like the equivalent of Valve patching up Half-Life 1 to fix a cheat like "noclip." Its quite useless too, and considering the population that still play StarCraft on Battle.net, a cheat on singleplayer in the least of their worries.