Standard LAN petition

Discussion in 'General StarCraft 2 Discussion' started by LimaBeanMage, Jun 30, 2009.

Standard LAN petition

  1. LimaBeanMage

    LimaBeanMage New Member

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    I, like many others, enjoy the option that gives us LAN features, and I'm not too happy about losing it. I suppose there are good reasons to strike it from the game for Blizzard's sake, but as an individual player I cannot quite stand behind the same justifications. So, there is a petition going around to try and show Blizzard that there are many players, both legitimate and unscrupulous, that would enjoy a LAN function.

    If you would like to contribute, then sign away. If not, then there is nothing wrong with friendly debates.

    http://www.petitiononline.com/LANSC2/petition.html
     
  2. Higgs Boson

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    I am sorry but at this moment this idea is immature and plain stupid. Dustin said that there are very good reasons for the removal of LAN and that LAN in some shape or form may still appear but most of all he said that the exact reasons for the removal of LAN will be disclosed once beta/battle.net 2.0 show up. He is aware of peoples mixed feelings and said he will look into it, making a petition about an issue that is not even properly known or recognized at this moment is not a smart move. So what if Blizzard really makes a blunder and somehow fails to recognize it? If you support petitions for such puny reasons like these do you think that the petitions would carry any sort of value?

    Personally I think people should delay any sort of dramatic counter-actions until beta or until battle.net 2.0 is revealed. Then if things wont look fine please feel free to make a petition and I will gladly sign it but until then lets not whine about the unknown.
     
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    agree 100% with Higg, no offence but its really a bunch of whiny brats at this point. be patient and wait for whats replacing it and the whole story
     
  4. LimaBeanMage

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    Hey now, I said "friendly debates"! Calling people whiney brats out of personal opinion is little better than the unsophisticated comments left by many on the general battle.net forums.

    True enough, a petition this early is a little hasty. So.... we'll call it a preemptive counter attack! :)
     
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    the unsophisticated posts are the whiny brats xD
     
  6. Kimera757

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    Petitions don't work anyway.
     
  7. LimaBeanMage

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    I wouldn't go as far as to say petitions do not work. I would classify them as nuanced mental influences. While not a decision maker, they influence gently or give at least a moment of pause for consideration.

    The best I am hoping for is the petition's demands aren't met, but at least developers mention the petition or the equivalent there of in a conversation or interview. After all, you can't change the world, but you can make a dent.
     
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    they dont work

    otherwise the FFVII remake would be out or the next sequel
     
  9. LimaBeanMage

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    Hey now, we're not trying to have an entire game created from scratch... just a small feature possibly given more thought
     
  10. CyberPitz

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    Petitions have never worked with anything. EVER. What's to stop the same person from voting multiple times, anyway? These online petitions are just there to make it look like they are being louder than they are.

    Please look to Higgs response for what else I want to say .
     
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    I wouldnt answer so Ignorantly as others in this thread, but I would w8 a bit with suck a petition, and se how it works in beta. I wouldnt use words like "am sorry but at this moment this idea is immature and plain stupid" when im CF talking to an Corporal either :p
     
  12. CyberPitz

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    Amounts of posts shouldn't really dictated if they are immune to what usual criticisms are out there. It's right, the petition idea is pretty immature and plain stupid...

    *EDIT* To elaborate more, a petition really isn't going to help anything. They know that people have mixed feelings, they see what's going on. Having a petition is just a waste of time and energy.
     
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    It isnt stupid (but yes, all those petitions are immature). People out there are cating and cant understand why blizzard are saying: "No lan, we wont tell what new there is". Even I dont understand that. I think it wont take long before Blizzard will have to talk about the new features or they will have to bring back Lan. The community hasn't been so split since the Tempest discussen, and we know what Blizz decided there :) (and there were petitions too, and there were people saying w8 too, and people saying bring back too etc. etc.)
     
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    But you can't honestly say, "If there wasn't a petition, the minds might not have changed so easily!"

    I honestly, without a doubt, believe they never even look at them, because they say the exact same thing that they already know. Sure, the community was loud enough, Blizzard decided that the idea wasn't so great, and they didn't see harm and reverting. Not sure if that's how it will work with LAN, but I guarantee that a petition will have no sway on their minds what-so-ever.
     
  15. Higgs Boson

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    Alright I was not going to react to furrers post but since CyberPitz did react I might as well follow him.
    First of all I am not trying to respect everyone in here and I did point my criticism at the idea itself, not the OP of this thread whom I assume is not the creator of this petition. However as CyberPitz said the fact that he has 10 times more posts than I currently do doesnt excuse him from being responsible for what he posts. If he posts something that I disagree with I will tell him and demonstrate why.
    Second of all you seem to basically agree with me that this petition is premature. Hence I can only assume that you call me/my post ignorant because of the way I wrote it and I fail to see how. I believe that I am the opposit of ignorant - I dont fall into the mass panic and list out the facts that the fear of losing any sort of LAN connection is premature and not justified at this moment.

    And at the end: 'People out there are cating and cant understand why blizzard are saying: "No lan, we wont tell what new there is". Even I dont understand that.'
    Exactly, you dont fully understand it and I dont fully understand it either. Blizzard mentioned that they will show us the reason(s) for that change once beta/battlenet 2.0 come out hence there is no way we could understand it at this moment.
     
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    I cannot agree with the idea that this petition will get its goals accomplished, but I cannot also condone statements such as "petitions have never ever had an effect on anybody." Quite the contrary, I think such statements are absurd, in all sense of the word.

    If you do something, anything really, you will impact others in some form or fashion. While no one can say a petition's goal will be realized, it will affect some people regardless. And that is really the underlying goal of a petition or organized movement; it shouldn't make a decision for people, but rather influence them psychologically for better or worse.
     
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    Higgs Boson: The most important question is not if I understand it or you understand it - but if Blizzard understand it!
     
  18. CyberPitz

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    They freaking better! :p
     
  19. ItzaHexGor

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    Yeah, petitions don't work.

    I mean, it's not like they brought Raynor's original actor back, or made Diablo3 a lot darker or anything, right?
     
  20. Bthammer45

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    Its like that petition for the diablo 3 art to be darker amd they just released info/videos of it.

    Blizzard is aware very much of the lan takeout and they have a really good reason on doing it and besides the games not out yet so nothing is final.