so this schrödinger's cat thingie.

Discussion in 'Space Junk' started by ijffdrie, Nov 19, 2010.

so this schrödinger's cat thingie.

Discussion in 'Space Junk' started by ijffdrie, Nov 19, 2010.

  1. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    doesn't the cat count as an observer?
     
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    Aurora The Defiant

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    he doesn't exist until observed?
     
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    what are we talking about guys???!!? D:
     
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    You can't be a third party observer to yourself.
     
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    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    Sure you can. You know can see whether you are alive or not, therefore you collapse the wave function. You don´t start existing in a state of flux everytime you are alone, do you=
     
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    You're a first party observer.

    Quantum mechanics only apply from a third party perspective.
     
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    There could be a mirror
     
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    No, the cat cannot possibly count as an observer.

    Drie, notethat this is only an analogy to the behavior of particles.

    The cat ....FINE. it IS an observer, but a different one.
    But it cannot possibly give US information.
    Relative to US the cat is both dead and alive. If we could ask the cat, then it is no longer superposition because we observed the cat.

    I don't think that things are actually superimposed, are they (PLEASE CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG), its just a concept.
    This is (superposition) is the concept behind quantum computing.


    Ever heard of Quantum Entanglement? Amazingly enough, its as if the cat COULD tell us if it was dead, alive, or what position it was between dead and alive. Cool? yes!

    tl;dr:
    No.


    Funny thing is that, I tihnk I just understood what I typed. Oh wait no Feynman says I dont >.>
     
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    Aurora The Defiant

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    I just figured something out.

    Quantum physics cannot be combined with common sense.
     
  10. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    It's not that bad.

    At least not at basic levels such as these.
     
  11. 1n5an1ty

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    Ya, not that bad.

    And common sense is different, because some people use different logics to justify their opinion.