SEGA Returning to Hardware Business?

Discussion in 'Gamer Chat' started by EonMaster, Jan 15, 2010.

SEGA Returning to Hardware Business?

Discussion in 'Gamer Chat' started by EonMaster, Jan 15, 2010.

  1. EonMaster

    EonMaster Eeveelution Master

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    I stumbled upon a video on youtube of someone discussing their opinion about rumors on SEGA coming back to the hardware business due to SEGA trademarking Ringwide and Ringedge (TM'd in Japan, US, and Europe, so will be released an all three places), as well as buying hardware.

    I came across a site that seems to have the specs and pictures of the planned systems. With one system being more higher tier, while another is weaker for a cheaper price. Other sites have speculated that the planned releases are before the xmas season for 2010.

    http://www.siliconera.com/2009/02/23/specs-of-segas-new-arcade-hardware/

    Will a new console from SEGA succeed, or will it prove to be the final blow to the creators of everyone's favorite blue hedgehog?

    Also, if the rumors are true, would it be highly likely that both Sonic All Star Racing and the current 2D Sonic game in production(Project Needlemouse) will see only a Ringwide/Ringedge release or will they be ported to other systems as well?
     
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    i love sega game.
     
  3. asdf

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    sorry, sega. at this point you probably shouldn't even try.

    let's see what they're up against:

    - Nintendo: THE biggest name in the video game industry, and has already scored with the casual gamer crowd, along with some of the most successful gaming franchises in history (mario, zelda). it's a household name. sega might have been a household name 15 years ago, but it lost to the super nintendo.

    - xbox360: they don't just supply the hardware, they supply software as well. produced by the biggest software company in the world, who is also a huge video game publisher. they were willing to burn cash from their other departments to make this console a success... which they did.

    - PS3: they don't just supply the hardware, they supply software as well as the rest of your living room. they were also willing to burn ridiculous amounts of cash to make this console a success... which didn't work as well as the 360, but still has a very good base. comes off the success of the PS2, the best selling console of all time.

    yeah, good luck, sega.
     
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    Sure Nintendo has scored the casual market but they have some good games for the serious gamer too.
    And sega didn't really lose the the SNES. Sure the SNES had a better title range. But it was the Saturn and the Dreamcast that killed Sega in the hardware market.

    Well yesSega has it hard to make in the console market. But like nintendo and Blizzard (in the PC game market) innovation can go a long way. If Sega to something really different and inspiring it might not have to be the most powerful system ever. it it is really fun people will buy it.

    The only thing that will really hurt Sega is the fan boys of the big 3. They all are so in love with their own system they will not buy another system even if it is better. Loyal or stupid? I dunno but there is a lot of fan boys liek this out there. And also not everyone can afford to have multiple consoles in their house.
     
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    EonMaster Eeveelution Master

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    The only reason I chose Nintendo over Microsoft or Sony was because of price of the system. Sure the Gamecube and Wii are weaker than their generation counterparts, but for only 1/2-1/3 the price, it works for me.

    So I think cost will play a major factor. Packaging a game with it would help boost sales, and it will most likely be some kind of Sonic game, as he is SEGA's best known game franchise.
     
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    the biggest "fanboys" unfortunately are the publishing studios themselves. it costs money to license a game for a console, so many can only afford to go with one. sometimes the console manufacturer will give them a discount for being an exclusive.

    so yeah, who would want to waste money developing for a new sega console other than sega themselves? nintendo pretty much has the casual market established, sony and MS are fighting out in the higher-end market.
     
  7. SOGEKING

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    SEGA failed in the console market because their games were not piratable, hackable. Read the following to understand.
    When the PS1 went there were a lot of persons who copied the games, burned CD to play them in the console. Piracy helped the PS1 to have success.
    The Dreamcast from SEGA had a GD-ROM reader. Yes, the GD-ROM. Impossible to burn CD or DVD to run them in a GD-ROM reader (from the Dreamcast), so this console was a fail.
    This is just one reason why SEGA failed. I really loved the Sonic and Knuckles adventures. Now we can play them in the Nintendo consoles.
    You must know that Nintendo was the most global console in the world, and the Nintendo company had the leadership, the monopole of the game industry and had the privilege to allow the game companies to create game only appropritate for the Nintendo NES. See the white rond star (a licence) under the ZELDA which is the stamp by Nintendo to allow this game to be playable in the Nintendo NES. Here it is white because this game was made by the Nintendo company, but for the other companies there were more words and the writing was golden.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Actually the round star is the Nintendo seal of quality. And it's just there to make sure what you get is not a cheap rip off but the real thing. And every game/console from the NES -> Wii + all the handhelds have had this deal on their box. So it's not just a NES thing. Heck it's even on the box of the Wii cleaning disc I bought lasty week.
     
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    pirateable games does not make a console a success. other than the nintendo wii, manufacturers LOSE money on consoles, and make back that money with game sales. and the nintendo seal of quality has nothing to do with pirating, just nintendo's assurance that the game was probably worth your money, not some $5 junk bin game dressed up as a $30 game.

    the PS1 and 2 beat the dreamcast because they SOLD more games, not because there were more games pirated. the saturn and dreamcast failed because they only had a few good games.
     
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    the Wii is losing third-party support b/c 3rd party games to done sell. why? ppl just buy wii sports or something and play that or go buy mario.

    Wii brought in casual gamers, and now these new gamers see a PS3 for $300 that doesnt a gajillion things and has no monthly fee like xbox and go buy that.

    BTW...Nintendo being the biggest name is contestable considering PS2 is the console King, Wii still isnt close to beating it.

    right now as it stands, 360 is in position to be 3rd this gen. the question is will the PS3 effectively annhilate Wii from behind or will it tie? Going off this year, and considering the massive increase Sony got last year compared to declines in Nintendo and M$...it looks like it will.

    Still to address the question - No, SEGA knows it would be suicide.
     
  11. asdf

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    well, the PS2 has been out for 10 years. that's a bit of a head start.

    the problem with the wii is that people don't make enough dedicated games for it. nintendo obviously does, and it shows. their own games for the wii are pretty much the best. developers dropping support for the wii pretty much have to blame themselves, they think "casual gamer" = "won't know the difference between a ****ty port and real game development". a lot of wii games are just PS2/3/xbox360 ports with the graphics turned down. controls are crap.

    nintendo has released tons of good games for the wii because they take full advantage of the console, instead of designing a game for the PS3 and then slapping some half-assed motion control and sell it for the wii.