same unit vs unit who would win?

Discussion in 'General StarCraft 2 Discussion' started by DDDx, Jul 22, 2007.

same unit vs unit who would win?

Discussion in 'General StarCraft 2 Discussion' started by DDDx, Jul 22, 2007.

  1. DDDx

    DDDx New Member

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    well im board so ive come up with an idea, based on what you know already about the new units which ones do you think would win if it were like same number of one unit vs same number of a dif unit,

    exsample: 6 cobras vs 6 zealots with charge abilty. in my opinion the zealots would win.

    so what match ups can you think of, and who would win?
     
  2. Ych

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    6 Cobras and 6 Zealots attacking moving, Zealots will most certain win that matchup.
    But with micro, 6 Cobras will win it. It's kind of like the old school Vultures vs Zealots matchup.

    How about these:
    6 Immortals vs 6 Thors: I think the Immortals will take this one. Thors attack will most likely be heavy attack, and Immortals will absorb most of the damage.

    6 Phoenix vs 6 Vikings (Air mode), and Phoenix cannot use Overlord ability:This is a tough one. I would go with the Vikings because the Phoenix passive attack just looks very weak. Plus, itz Overlord ability is a very powerful anti-air ability, so most likely, its passive attack isn't very strong.

    6 Cobras vs 6 Stalkers: Another tough one. I believe that 6 Stalkers will win. Protoss HP tend to have much more HP then the Terrans, and I believe the Stalkers will basically outmuscle the Cobras. Stalkers will most likely cost more though.
     
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    Canada, eh?
    To knock down your example DDD, I would disagree. Yes they have Charge but that is on cooldown, and as the Cobras are holding their hand and leading them around, they're attacking. Not to mention these are "Vultures" so their move speed will excel what the Zealot can do.

    6 Phoenix VS 6 Mutalisks. Tough because they both seem to have a weaker normal attack and the Phoenix have shields while the Mutalisks have ricochet which will wear down the others while doing regular damage to their original target.
     
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    Well call it a hunch...but I think that phoenix will be quite adept at taking care of themselves even without overload. (once again with the protoss single unit muscle) so even without it I"m sure they can take thier fair share (aka even numbers) of thier oppisites down.

    So 6 phoenix vs 6 Vikings (air), I would beleive the anti-small craft (firepower) of the phoenix woud mean they literally outlast the Vikings. The demo showed thier air attack to be ineffective vs something like a battlecruiser (which would hold true to the bigger ships/creatures of both races). But remember that overload is nothing more then thier normal attack hitting everything in the area. (quite a few times)

    A more intresting matchup would be something like a few tempest (no air shield but I still beleive they can attack air targets) vs a few Vikings. Which I beleive would probly leave both parties wounded in the end.

    How would 3 Archons fair against a Thor: I beleive the archons would fair pretty well here once in range of Thor, but 1-2 might bite it before the end.

    One of my major curiosities tho...is how phase cannons will hold up to the fire. They almost seem weaker then they were in SC1 from what I've seen. (even if they are mobile) They are the protoss's only defensive structure atm and pale in comparison to what has been shown for the Terrans.
     
  5. PowerkickasS

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    i posted this in another thread before i found this one so i shall repost:

    mothership vs planetary fortress
    (if blackhole doesnt work on flying buildings :p)
     
  6. JudicatorPrime

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    200 Marines with one weapon upgrade vs. 200 Marines with one armor upgrade..

    GO!
     
  7. Fenix

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    Planet Cracker wins.

    Heh heh...
     
  8. burkid

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    that would come down to micro.

    if it was the same situation with mutalisks, then the armor would win.
     
  9. JudicatorPrime

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    No micro, just one big line.. one armor, one weapon..
     
  10. burkid

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    they do exactly the same damage. either one could win, one side would have 1 unit in the end and the other will have none with no micro.
     
  11. Dreadnought

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    Only micro would determine that fight... Now maybe 200 with stimpacks and 200 with range upgrade and damage upgrade GO
     
  12. PowerkickasS

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    200vs200:
    gg stimpacks, sucks because dey always drift into the enemy before firing because of the crappy ai xD

    10vs10:
    im afraid gg range =(
     
  13. zeratul11

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    1 vs 2. 1 colossus vs 2 siege tank.

    i think colossus wins even the tanks are in siege mode.

    colossus vs thor. thor wins.
    12 warp rays vs 12 viking. i think viking wins.
     
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    1 colossus vs 4 siege tanks and colossus would still win :p
    also, if 4 warprays will destroy 3 battlecuisers without 1 being killed i think they would win vs viking
     
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    yah like in the demo, but as you can see the battlecruisers did not focus fire on one warp ray at the same time and the warp ray focus fire on a single bc thats why they were able to take all of the bc out without any of them(warprays) dying. although the warp ray still wins , i think 2 of them should be dead if only the battlecruisers focus fired on one warp ray at a time.

    4 siege tanks even in siege mode? perhaps the colossus wins if the tanks are not in siege mode. im not sure against 4 tanks in siege mode tho ::)

    and about the vikings, i think the warprays are only strong against heavy armored and huge units with long attack cooldown like battlecruisers but viking i assume has strong and FAST air attacks thus they will kill the warp rays easily like what the marines did in the demo. ^^
     
  16. burkid

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    its not that the marines killed it easily, its just that there was a lot of them with relitively low health, and all the warp rays were weakened by the BCs, so the marines just survived as a group long enough to take down the rays. it would be the same with vikings, the vikings would have to have numbers on their side.
     
  17. Nikzad

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    No, it's a built-in weakness

    Marines capitalize on the loophole in the method of attack of the warp rays. The longer it fires the more damage it does. When it has to switch targets every X number of seconds to a new target, you are not using the warp ray to its full potential
     
  18. burkid

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    exactly, but 1 marine vs 1 warpray marine wins. 3 marines vs 1 warp ray, marines will possibly win.  5 marines, 1 warp ray, marines win. 14 marines vs 4 weakened warp rays, marines win.
     
  19. Nikzad

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    oh nevermind then, your earlier post confused me
     
  20. Hadean

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    Okay. If the Cobra shares the same stats as vultures and the zealots the same, theres no choice. The Cobra's would come out on top due to damage superiority and the fact that they could be microed to limit any casualities at all.

    now good one would be 24 Marines with Stim pack and Range vs 24 Marines with 2 attack and 2 armor.