Regarding post deletion and handling protocol

I'd like to bring to the attention of the moderating community of the disappearance of several of my posts in this thread.

While you might judge certain posts to be unsuitable/irrelevant to the thread at hand, please remember that a member had to make an effort and spend time to make that post, and it shouldn't be wiped off the forum without his/her knowledge. I beg of you the courtesy of at least sending a private message with copies of the posts and a reason for their deletion for all future cases. The reason for this should be plainly obvious.

 

Please remember that our posting guidelines are clear and are stated in great detail in this thread. If you are following these rules (honestly, it's not hard to do), you shouldn't have your post deleted in the first place.

 

Alright then. Which rule did I break? Having my posts deleted without being notified of any rule breaking doesn't make sense either. The discussion here is about how you handle these cases.

 

Wait... madeener, I just looked at your deleted posts, and are you honestly trying to say that your posts were suitable and relevant, and that you'd put time and effort into posting it?

Your posts were completely off topic, inappropriate, and would be lucky to reach twenty words in total. That's spam. Rule number seven. If anyone is being discourteous, it's you for spamming serious discussion boards.

 

Hahaha. Allow me to reproduce some posts from same thread.

Seven words plus one smiley, completely unrelated to topic, holds no substanc whatsoever. This stays while mine go.

Nine words, indulgent proclamation of 'too busy right now', holds no substance. This stays while mine go.

Yippee.

Post #12: Renatus and Post #13: ijffdrie in reply. Need I say more?


My post is as subtle a jab at the logic which goes into a discussion of the topic at hand as anyone elses. And I get 'Your posts were completely off topic, inappropriate, and would be lucky to reach twenty words in total.'?

You know what? Forget it. I posted here in hopes of exploring a better way of handling cases like mine but since the bunch of you are reluctant, have it your way.

 

So what exactly did u write to get ur posts deleted???

 

The quotes you're citing all came from the first page when the topic was not only young, but also at risk of dying. Basically, it was lucky to have gotten to the stage it's at now. If it hadn't it'd've been moved to the Space Junk sub-forum, if it was lucky.

Your first post, however, was about four pages in, when discussion was evolving, but where you started talking, very crudely, about anal sex. On top of that, another member complained about its content. After that, your posts where obviously out of place, amongst the serious discussion the others were having. Lastly, you seem blissfully ignorant of the fact that other members' posts have been deleted as well, so either you've chosen to ignore the fact that you can't actually see deleted posts or feel so victimised that you've decided to assume that this could only have happened to you.

 

So that deserves no notification right?

 

Oh so the page they're on makes a difference Note taken.

I've already decided to let the way you do it stand but first, I have to respond to 'feel so victimised that you've decided to assume that this could only have happened to you'. I do realise that there are a ton of people having their posts deleted daily and then searching through threads for them, wondering what happened and I'm simply among their number, which is why I'd like to see a better way of handling these so that 1) Members will get to know what they have done wrong and are notified about it, and 2) They get to recover the content of their posts. Just because I'm the first to address this doesn't mean that I'm feeling threatened and victimised. I'm just trying to see some change, hopefully for the better.

EDIT: And also I'd like to get behind you and bo- Whoops

 

No, page number doesn't make a difference, the discussion does. In the thread you're talking about, however, there is a correlation. Chances are you would have been able to get away with posting one of the more appropriate of your messages within the first page or so, but after that the discussion moved beyond that. As I said, if the discussion had remained as it was in the beginning, it would have been moved to Space Junk for just being spam. The discussion evolved, however, which is why you'll see more tolerance for spam at the beginning of the thread than you'll see later on.

Also, I'd be surprised if people on these forums regularly looked back over their past posts, especially if they were just spam like yours. On top of that, firstly, members shouldn't be posting anything wrong in the first place, as the rules are easily accessible, and secondly, posts like yours that have been deleted for being spam don't have any content to be recovered. In fact, if there's any relevant content in them at all, even if it does contain what would otherwise have been spam, unless it's offensive, they won't be deleted.

@ me555. There's no point in notifying members of posts that have been deleted if they've directly broken the rules. To do so would be extremely inefficient and would be a waste of the mods' time.

 

Shouldnt people have enough sense to know what right and whats wrong?

I mean if they wrote something really bad then they should know it.

Though i wouldnt think the moderators would delete posts for reasons that are not obvious.

 

I agree that there should be notification on removed posts. Maybe not if they're blatantly against the rules (clear racism, pornography-related etc), but sometimes it's not that obvious that the line was crosses already.

 

Who was it who complained about banned's sig?

I wanna talk things over with them...

 

There would be no point.

 

No, the member shouldn't be told about the reasons why his posts are being deleted, if he has a problem, he should PM the mod or mods doing it, instead of just being flat told.

If a mod were to simply say to someone, hey Imma delete this and this post,

One, it would change the topic of the thread to an arguement over whether the post should stay or not, with more then just the mod and person in question in the debate, taking up space in the thread as spam.

Two, it would be a serious waste of time for everyone, to stop talking about something, to argue whether or not something is relevent to the topic at hand, is just ridiculus.

Example, if you don't pay your electric bill, you'll get your power turned off. If the people who come to do it, knock on the door before hand, and tell you that they are doing it, then you're gonna go out there and try to get them to stop, demand why they are shutting your power off, harrass them, and in some cases get violent with that person.

Now I know that if you get violent towards a mod, you're gone. The point still stands however.

 

That's not how I see it at all.
The post gets deleted, the member gets a PM explaining why, end of story. Posting directly in the topic that you're going to delete a post is indeed unreasonable.

 

Providing a PM for every post we delete is also unreasonable, expecially when we delete a whole swath of posts at once.

 

See what I mean?

 

Wouldn't it be possible to have the "reason for deletion" pm'd automatically?

 

Lol, don't you know anything? Mods are lazy.

They'd have to write a code for that to happen.