Please leave the original starcraft units

I've taken a poll on another thread that was seeing what starcraft2 unit is the most favorite.
well I thought to myself... were's the dragoon? I think blizzard should keep all of the original units from starcraft in starcraft2. I like all the units that are new to starcraft2 but there was nothing wrong with the dragoon, defiler, scourge, devourer, etc. I understand that blizzard wants starcraft2 to be a little different that starcraft but you don't have to remove those original units to do that. Adding additional units does that, making the dynamics as good as iv'e seen them in trailers does that. Oh my God the goliath I haven't seen the goliath please tell me they didn't take away the goliath, and the valkrie? science vessel? corsair? scout? WHY! WHY! WHY!

Well just here me out Blizzard. If you don't want to add the original units to the regular gameplay at least allow us to add them to our own maps in mapeditor. Don't leave any unit out of starcraft2!!! I want to here people's comments.

 

All original units will actually be in the map editor, so relax.

Replacing old units can be good. I think that the Stalker and Immortal look cooler than the Dragoon and they add a lot to the gameplay. Blinking Stalkers will be awesome.

And the Goliath has been replaced by the Viking (and the Thor, sort of), which looks way better than the old Goliath.

 

What he said.

Seriously though - you can't just keep all the old units and add new ones. Blizzard knows how to create good games, and doubling the unit count of each race isn't how to do it. This is, after all, Starcraft 2.

And since the old units will be in the map editor, it'll only be a matter of time before somebody re-creates the original Starcraft with Starcraft 2 tools. Then you'll have your Starcraft in 3-D.

 

thanx but the dragoon is like a basic build as many as you can and attack unit I like them, thanx for calming my fears. I hope your wright about the editor, did you here straight from the horses mouth?

 

Yes, I am absolutely certain that all Starcraft BW units will exist in 3D in the new editor. Give the modders some time after the release, and you'll be able to use your precious Dragoons in "Starcraft 3D".

 

Is there any way to get a petition to blizzard? Oh and the firebat, vulture, wraith, arbiter. WERE THE **** ARE THEY. ITS BLASPHEMY lol. I don't want these units to be mods but in the edior or better in the game itself. please Blizzard here my plea.

 

Blizzard doesn't listen to petitions.

The units will be in the map editor, and some will probably be in the campaign. (I get the impression that Bel'shir has been home to stranded Protoss for four years, and it's unlikely they'd have the new tech, so Dragoons will still be present. But that's a guess.)

As for multi player, no. The Firebat and Vulture were too narrow, and have been replaced by the Jackal and Reaper. Wraiths have been replaced by the Viking, which is twice as good against small units like Mutalisks now. The Arbiter is just gone, but some of its abilities have been kept. Dragoons have been replaced (in gameplay terms) by the Stalker, which is basically a slightly weaker Dragoon that can blink. All those old units will be in the map editor.

 

Whoa. Dude. Chill. Do you want StarCraft 2, or StarCraft: Brood War in 3D?

Most people want a new game, and that means new units. All the previous units (And rumor has it, axed units) will be in the editor. I'm sure there'll be map pack you can download with the SC II campain with the SC I units.

 

Are they honestly taking away the sunken, and spore colony? will the madness end?

 

No, they're not. They changed the name.

 

I wonder if that includes the Tempest even though the carrier is just a reskinned Tempest

 

They changed the name. They can "walk" now. They even have the same stats (eg hit points, damage, damage type, etc).

 

Agreed. Lord knows I wouldn't buy SC2 if it was Brood War in a 3D wrapper. Besides, Wraith+Goliath=Viking, Defiler=Infestor, Dragoon=Stalker. If you think about it, you still have most all of your beloved units, they just have some new (if not particularly pleasant, in the Infestor's case) skins on them. Calm down.

 

The dragoon is different though it doesn't have any special power its just a walking photon cannon and thats what made it good. Hands down they should keep the old units and add the new ones let us decide what units we will choose to build. Otherwise your forcing us to choose a strategy.

Why can't I choose whether I want to build Wraiths or Vikings? It doesn't make sense why you would take away original units. Adding to the already good units is what should be done. What happen to the medic.

 

You would like to be able to build Vikings, Goliaths and Wraiths in the same build? That's ridiculous. They overlap with eachother. And seriously, why would you want the old Gol and Wraith back? The Viking sooo more flexible. If you need AA, you transform them into fighter mode. But then, your opponent brings in some GtA. Well guess what, your money won't have been wasted, cause you can just transform into Asasult mode and go GtG.

Having a unit that basically is a walking Photon Cannon is boring. Now, it's a Photon (or should I say Phase?) Cannon that can teleport short distances. Great harrassing / escaping options.

The Tempest was more unique than that. It had melee Shurikens and that special AtG shield (or should you phrase that GtA?) . I am sure it will be in the editor.

 

You're contradicting yourself Zeratul88. They've already added features to the "good units" such as Zealot's Charge ability, and the Stalker's Blink is just adding to the Dragoon when it comes right down to it. Furthermore it makes perfect sense to take away old units and replace them. If Blizzard just left the old units in the gameplay, then no one would have any reason to buy SC2 because there'd be nothing new about it aside from graphics.. The sales would be terrible, and it'd be a huge hit at Blizzard's reputation.

The Medic has been replaced by the Medivac Dropship, basically a Dropship with the ability to heal friendly flesh units. (I can see why you'd want the Medic back though. A lot of people do)

Also, a few things: You can edit your posts, so please do that in the future instead of double posting. Also, It seems like you haven't been keeping up with SC2 much, so I'd advice using our site's search engine to find the threads with the Q&A's posted on them.

 

what would happen if blizzard did that? there would be alot of flaming "WHY THE F*** IS THIS SC1 IN 3D?!?!? WTF!!! DAM YOU BLIZZARD...CANT YOU THINK OF NEW UNITS FOR ONCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 CRAPPIEST GAME COMPANY IN THE WORLD!!"

that would probably happen...no..it will happen

this is a new game dude....geez if you dont like it, dont buy it.. >.>

 

They have thought of some good units, but they old ones don't have to suffer for it. They even left the reaver, and possession out what the hell.

 

Its called WAR, after you fight with them a while you adapt yourself to make up for weakness within your own army or their army. the Protoss Zealot upgrade, and the two units that replaced the Dragoons are a great example of this, Siege Tanks are always used by Terran players to kill the Zealots and Dragoons so the Protoss adapted by giving the Zealots Charge which makes it more likely that more Zealots will make it to the tanks without dieing, and making Immortals which can absorb the damage that the Dragoons couldnt of taken, the Stalkers have greater mobility a thing that Dragoons lacked.

the adapting process can be confusing tho, you might give yourself a weakness that the enemy could then exploit, like the Overlords losing detection, why give up a strength? because the enemy would have had something that would counter it, if the Terrans no longer had Siege Tanks the Immortal would not be that useful against the Terrans as much, now would they?

its the evolution of war, you either adapt or get slaughtered.

 

The Reaver was replaced with the much nastier Colossus, the Dark Archon was never really used, especially not Mind Control. They took it out to make room for a caster that people would care about. The Nullifier currently sits in its seat.