Old vs. New

Discussion in 'Protoss' started by Pix, Jun 14, 2007.

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Old vs. New

Discussion in 'Protoss' started by Pix, Jun 14, 2007.

  1. Pix

    Pix New Member

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    Okay, there's quite a lot of confusion over this "Same number of units in 1 as 2" thing, so I decided to make a list of the units in each so we can make a comparison. I'll do the Protoss first and as more information is released I'll add the Terran and Zerg to the mix. I'll also be using the existing sticky of "List of Confirmed Units" as a base, if that's alright.

    Starcraft & Starcraft : Brood Wars

    Protoss Units:
    Source - http://www.battle.net/scc/protoss/units/

    Ground Units:
    Zealot
    Dragoon
    High Templar
    Dark Templar

    Robotic Units:
    Probe
    Shuttle
    Reaver
    Observer

    Aerial Units:
    Scout
    Corsair
    Arbiter
    Carrier

    Psionic Entities:
    Archon
    Dark Archon

    Total Units:
    Ground Units : 4
    Robotic Units : 4
    Aerial Units : 4
    Psionic Entities : 2
    Total Units : 14

    Starcraft II

    Protoss Units:
    Source - http://www.starcraft2forum.org/forums/index.php?topic=255.0

    Ground Units:
    Zealot
    Immortal
    Stalker
    High Templar
    Soul Hunter

    Robotic Units:
    Probe
    Reaver
    Observer
    Collossus

    Aerial Units:
    Phase Prism
    Warp Ray
    Tempest
    Phoenix
    Mothership

    Psionic Entities:
    Twilight Archon

    Total Units:
    Ground Units : 5
    Robotic Units : 4
    Aerial Units : 5
    Psionic Entities : 1
    Total Units : 15

    So, are there any I have missed? All help would be appreciated :)

    ~Pix~
     
  2. sordid

    sordid New Member

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    You forgot the Colossus :D
     
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    T-man New Member

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    And the Dark Templar. We are getting a bunch of units here... :-\
     
  4. NotDeadYet

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    Also, it's called the Soul HUNTER. Though Soul Seeker sounds pretty cool...

    You also did not add the rumoured new aerial unit - The Star Relic. You may want to add "(Rumored)" or something like that after its name, just so we know that it hasn't been seen in any videos.

    Also, the Mothership probably does not count as a new unit. Blizzard has stated that the Zerg and Terrans will not be getting "ultimate units" like the mothership. This means that whatever ability they get will not replace an existing unit. So, if the Mothership does replace a unit, the Zerg and Terrans will have just as many unit types as the Protoss as well as their own special abilities - Which is unbalanced.

    Buildings (SC 1):
    Nexus
    Assimilator
    Pylon
    Gateway
    Forge
    Cybernetics Core
    Photon Cannon
    Shield Battery
    Robotics Facility
    Observatory
    Robotics Support Bay
    Stargate
    Fleet Beacon
    Arbiter Tribunal
    Citadel of Adun
    Templar Archives
    Total buildings: 16

    Buildings (SC 2):
    Nexus
    Assimilator
    Pylon
    Gateway / Warp Gate
    Forge
    Stargate
    Photon Cannon / Phase Cannon
    In addition, there are 3 unidentified Protoss structures shown in the demo video.
    Total buildings: 10, plus the Warp Gate and Phase Cannon upgrades
     
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    theres another topic on that
     
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    I was just thinking about how before these new units came out and boosted the unit count, we were all assuming that the races had the same amount of units as SC1. I believe that someone said that the makers of the game said this, which would verify its validity.

    Maybe we misinterpreted what the makers said...ie maybe they said "Each race will have the same number of units." - We took this to mean the same number of units as SC1, but maybe they meant that each race will have the same number of units as each of the other races.

    Mods might want to move this into each of the " What replaces the *blank*?" topics if what I'm saying makes sense
     
  8. Pix

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    I'm not going to add the Dark Templar or Star Relic, because they aren't confirmed. Thanks for the Collossus tip-off, though.
    Uhh, can you explain that a little more dude?

    ~Pix~
     
  9. coalescence

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    No no no, it annoyed me too that everyone was asuming that because I have read it and it sayd: Roughly the same numbers. In Blizzard language thats: We will add a few new units but don't expect a shitload of them.
     
  10. Nikzad

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    @ Coalescence - ahhh i see

    @ pix - I meant that if what I said held true (that when they said "same number," it meant between races, not between SC1 and SC2) that they might want to put my post into the topics like "what does the colossus replace?" and so on and so forth to keep people from posting on irrelevant topics, even though they are probably dead by now
     
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    LoserInLosing New Member

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    Its not tottally comfirmed dark temps are on etc. And if the variety of troops is larger, so are the others.
     
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    how is the star relic not confirmed??...its in a screenshot...i dont know about the DT thought because its only picture is blurred.
     
  13. Darkener

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    A picture can't confirm anything. A video can, with real gaming mechanics and stuff. A picture can be made by, well anyone!
     
  14. paragon

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    It's in official screenshots though so it's as good as confirmed.
    By the way, I found this picture of the Citadel of Adun, that confirms it's in the game.
     
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    PrivateJoker New Member

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    The Star Relic unit IS confirmed by a major publication, and it is an aerial unit, much like the Arbiter. (Consider the Star Relic a second generation Arbiter!)
     
  16. Nikzad

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    omg citadel of adun...what a waste of base space; I mean i loved leg enhancements, but citadel was such a pain in the ass
     
  17. coalescence

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    I think the only reason it existed was to keep people from teching up to templars too fast, and the leg enhancement is only to give it a purpose other than the stalling.
     
  18. Nikzad

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    very true

    it got so annoying though when it got late game and I'd cycle through my cluster of citadel/cy core/fleet beacon. etc looking for upgrades I hadn't researched and every time there was freaking nothing to do in the citadel of adun except listen to that gay sound whenever you clicked on it

    *EDIT: I accidentally highlighted then moved a block of text into the middle of another sentence*
     
  19. coalescence

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    True to that, they could have given it more purpose.
     
  20. paragon

    paragon Guest

    Only thing they could really do with it is add more upgrades.
     
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