Mutas vs Vikings

Discussion in 'Zerg' started by Makki, Aug 3, 2010.

Mutas vs Vikings

Discussion in 'Zerg' started by Makki, Aug 3, 2010.

  1. Makki

    Makki Member

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    okay so the mutalisk cost 100 minerals and 100 gas
    and i dont remember how much the viking cost
    but compared to the price is mutas really better than vikings?? D:
    because viking are supposed to be anti-air right?
    i wanna know :D
     
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    Vikings will kill mutas in air to air combat.
     
  3. Makki

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    okay......
     
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    viking is 150/75 and muta is 100/100 as u said it depends in 1v1 viking wins no problem but in mass combat i belive mutalisks would win with their extra shots
     
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    Not necessarily, mass vikings versus mass mutas, the winner would be the vikings. Although I don't know why were talking about this, you don't get mutas to counter vikings...
     
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    In my personal experience, muta's have pretty much always raped Vikings (mostly due to numbers). I've never really had a mass muta's vs. mass vikings though, there was always more muta's then vikings (which is the true zerg style, righ? :S )
     
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    It comes down to this: 1v1 viking wins, moderate numbers (large range, anywhere from 2-10ish of each) mutalisks win handily. Once you get into nearly excessive viking numbers though, they get better and better against mutalisks.

    In a practical sense, mutalisks have an edge over vikings mainly because of how they are metter in moderate numbers.

    On to down side to zerg players though, vikings are very rarely alone since marines can jump into the fray and even the fight out, or a thor can jump in and give the vikings the edge.

    Before the late game though mutalisk is a great unit vT
     
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    Canada, eh?
    Vikings have a massive. Massive range.

    It's easy to take out any air unit with them really, considering with a bit of basic micro you can dance Vikings around the enemy air and get free shots.
     
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    qft.
     
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    Canada, eh?
    There's few things that can make me smile enough to dislocate my jaw.

    One of them is seeing Mutalisks decelerate to take a shot on my Vikings, only for them to have to chase after my Vikings because they've already shot a volley and backed off.
     
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    but mutas are fast and can shoot while moving, so catching up to vikings isn't a problem. that range only helps for the first attack or so. cost for cost, a large stack of mutas will beat vikings. you'd need a thor or marines to help counter them.
     
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    Whoa whoa whoa. Mutalisks can shoot while moving?!?! While I assume this in more of a kiting sense rather than a "look at me, I'mma pheonix" sense, how in the freaking hell do you do that? The best I can do with a mutalisk micro is them outrunning their opponents, stop to shoot, then run away again, because their acceleration is ****.

    I've always assumed that Vikings can just kite the Mutalisks. I mean, sure, the mutas will get close enough to attack eventually, but the vikings would have gotten 2-3 shots off first.
     
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    maybe i'm mixing it up with sc1 mutas... lol. but in any case, they're still way faster than vikings (a good 30-40% or so) and will quickly get into range after the vikings get a shot off. they can kite void rays, and probably corruptors, but mutas are just too fast.
     
  14. Crash

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    I had a fight with mass mutas against mass Vikings just today. My mutas tore them up very very nicely. Dont know if he had any upgrades tho and i think i had 1 weapon atm. But really unsure ill replay it and let ya know but imo Mutas will tear vikings up.
     
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    I think it is a very one way or the other way fight. I think if the fight was even numbers I'd definitely give it to the Vikings.
    The Mutalisk splash damage could stack quite nicely and like I said wipe out the Vikings. It will go either way depends who has more and upgrades I'm sure. :/ not a very good answer I have here. I try to keep my Mutalisks away from Vikings unless I outnumber them, hows that.
     
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    Focus fire is better with moderate numbers of mutalisks against vikings as there is less overkill and the splash will also focus unless the vikings are moving around alot. Whenever i've had mutalisks vs vikings the mutalisks win hands down.
     
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    keep in mind not to try to kite the vikings. it is tempting to try because you have mutas and harrassment is what mutas do best, but viking range totally dominates muta range. If you are hanging around just barely within each other's sight, he will get a bunch of extra hits on you. make sure you either commit or stay back completely. Don't take extra hits, and fight him on your terms. Above a missile turret, you're screwed, but above a queen or even open space you have a much better shot. Remember to focus fire and commit, and hopefully he will forget to. Maybe he will try to kite you, but if you don't pull back, he can't outrun mutas.
     
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    i think that if they didn't decelerate so much they would be at least a little bit better but I think that hinders them, also I would like to see a slightly lower cost like 100/75, there fore you would have like one more for every three or so, witch would help them out quite a bit.
     
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    Dude, mutas are already the most useful air unit in the game hands down :p
    If Zerg gets buffed it should be the ground units that get improved.
     
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    omg i am so sick of these smug terran players that think they are good, WHEN THE NEXT PATCH COMES OUT I WILL KICK THE **** OUT OF YOU OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND I WILL LAUGH, I LOST TO TERRAN MECH LIKE 10 GOD DAMN TIMES TODAY, I AM SO MAD