Keyboard Macros?

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Strategy Discussion' started by Ste, Jan 26, 2009.

Keyboard Macros?

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Strategy Discussion' started by Ste, Jan 26, 2009.

  1. Ste

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    Keyboard Macros for SC or plan to for Sc2?

    I have this Logitech G11 keyboard and on the left side it has all these programmable keys.

    Is it considered unfair to any of you?
     
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    I know a gaming community who consider them unfair. I'm not too bothered about it since widescreens already give an unfair advantage so SC2 is rather lenient in this aspect.
     
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    Why are widescreens unfair?

    Is it really the fualt of the player that they have a bigger screen than others?
     
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    I think they'd call it unfair because widescreens show more of the map than normal screens.
     
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    Yes but how can you blame a player for having a bigger screen.

    Its like blaming a player for having a better mouse, keyboard or even a better CPU or video card.
     
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    Not exactly. You can compensate for poor PC components by turning off certain things, while there is no way to make someone with a 4:3 display see as much as someone with a 16:9 one.
     
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    simple, it is human nature to blame anything so that it is not their fault.(for most people anyway)
     
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    perhaps there could be a match making system where people with the same sized moniters could find other players with the very same.

    For the people that whine like biotchs anyways.

    I still think its very childish to call foul on those that have bigger moniters.. Srlys..
     
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    The only thing childish is calling foul on the vast majority of SC players for the convenience of people who spend more money on PC equipment and choose widescreens.
     
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    Its noones fualt that people either cannot afford or choose not to buy widescreens..
     
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    Me no computer person.

    Okay, how are keyboard macros useful for StarCraft? I thought people used those kinds of things for WoW, and only because you can do some kinds of grinding with them.
     
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    Basically a key macro allows you to assign a set of actions to just one button. So you could have a macro like:
    if you press key 1 then this action takes place [press 1, press t, press 2, press t, press 3, press t, press 4, press t].
    The end result being able to create, in this case, 4 tanks at the press of just one button, provided you use the same groups every game and you set them to factories. But seeing as how you can have different profiles for such keyboards, it's not hard to create three separate profiles for your main race versus the three, or for all the race combinations for that matter (and then just alt+tab and switch profiles before the game starts), or even for different builds within a certain race matchup because the number of profiles is unlimited.
     
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    Yep, I have three different profile buttons on this keyboard. So thats good if I choose to use them in SC2, one for each.
     
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    First of all some people can't even afford to buy food to feed their family you shouldn't be making fun of people not choosing to waste their money on a bigger to screen to gain an advantage.

    Also for your last post macro keyboards are not allowed in the pro league Sc so even if you get good with it it won't matter.

    P.S I even fixed ur spelling errors :p
     
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    My mouse can simulate 11 buttons, and I often made them to different functions when I play. Hotkey mapping is usually done on RPGs like Diablo though since I can't be bothered to change it and 3 of those buttons are for volume control (and another 2 are the right and left buttons and non-remappable with stock programming)

    Haven't mapped the keyboard yet since the Fn isn't a toggle so using them would be more of a pain in the ass than the regular keys (I have to remove my hand from the mouse to press and hold the Fn key)
     
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    If they make such a low income and as you say have trouble even putting food on the table, they shouldn't even be on a computer playing a game and complaining about others having better setups. And I was never making fun of them.
    Many people don't buy bigger screens to gain advantages, many buy screens for other media, like using their comp to watch dvd's and tv shows..

    So how do they know what keyboard you have and whether you use the macro or not?
    Do they make you take a picture or something?
    Watch you at all times?
     
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    I think he meant pro league as in playing at a contest, in person... :p

    I understand your point with this widescreen/macro thing. However, although I own a widescreen, I still think it's an unfair advantage. Imagine someone having 9 widescreens connected somehow and seeing 9 times as much as you... how would you feel? It's the same thing with widescreen vs regular ratio, albeit at a somewhat smaller scale. However, at competitive play that marginal difference can indeed cost the player with the smaller display the game. That said, it won't make much of a difference at my skill level, so my widescreen won't make me a better player. But there are really good players out there and there will be in SC2, where the difference would show.
     
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    If someone really really cared about fairness for a online game they would try to either get a bigger screen themselves or only play others with similar setups.

    Complaining doesn't accomplish anything, just do something about it..
     
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    You can't really tell if they got wide screen or not. Just depends on skill level and I guess macros do play a role in Sc, but if you ever reach a pro league level you would pretty much lose if you completely depend on the macros to do everything for you.
     
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    Macro's will have less of an impact in starcraft 2 i think, what with multiple building selection and such so i don't see them being so frowned upon.