Is a zerg type of race realistic?

I'm not asking this to be a jerk about lore or anything, just curios. Is it realistic in the real world (or real galaxy) to have a race so biologically strong that it can overwhelm a technologically advanced race?

Something tells me no, bullets are pretty effective against every living thing that moves and is big enough to get shot. But maybe I'm wrong.

 

Hell ya its possible look at just some of the creatures on earth... We've go crabs that carve open canned food to eat and insects than can kill anything with one bite. An ant can lift 10 times its own body weight and the hive mind thing is ridiculously effect. Im no brain scientist but i see it completely feesable that insects left to evolve for a few billion years or so could definitely pull off zerg like stuff.

Like look on earth where the animals are the most abundant around the equator is where you'll find the strongest and toughest insects because day in and day our for thousands of years they've been fighting for survival. Zerg like beings would just be the winners of that billion year fight for dominance...

 

Well the whole point is that they've been evolved to be killing machines so yes since they have been evolved in some crazy high tech way to not really care about being shot at such as having stupidly hard carapace or internal systems that can be smashed up a bit it is possible

They can't reproduce (I think) so they are probally pretty simple inside.

Even in our world it takes some pretty big guns to kill something like an elephant or i would imagine a large dinosaur. Even in Vietnam the Americans bullets were too small to cause much damage to drugged up people (They may die after the battle but in SC they only have to survive a short while). Also in SC the hp may also take into account missing the target.

But ya even in lore outside of the rts part of the game game I see it as plausible. Nothing would ever evolve like that but within the galaxies laws it is possible for a living organism to be that tough. Not so sure about flying in space or ripping through metal though >>.

 

No, it's absurd, of course.

Most specifically, because they have no way to propel themselves through space. My favorite images are those of mutalisks flying through space, flapping their little wings hahahaha. There is no air in space, rumor has it, therefore wings = fail.

EVEN IF some creatures evolved the ability to far their way through space, there would be no way for them to even begin to approach the speeds necessary for the distances that separate celestial bodies. It is for this reason that unless some radically new properties of space/time are discovered and put to practical use, humanity will never make it out of the solar system.

Andrey

 

Ok. Time to pwn.

1) You do realize that a god-like species propelled their evolutionary growth greatly? and that their evolutionary growth is now hundreds of million times FASTER than most life forms on earth.
2) Ever seen bullet-proof glass? and i mean BULLTPROOF. such evolution as mentioned above would be much stronger than even that.
3) Even thick armor is not needed. Ever seen diamond?
4) There are bacteria strains that can survive in EXTREME conditions. fast foward their evolution and make it controlled = Godly.

Now let me make a comparison between a drone and modern day. It's size would be slightly bigger than a tank. It can shoot spines hard enough to penetrate "neosteel" (at least in sc1). we know this cuz it does 5 damage. This means that it (its spine) is going faster than a bullet (probably), and is harder too.
A bullet propelled to extremely high speeds is basicly the gauss rifle. It takes 7-8 (due to rapid regen) hits by the gauss rifle to kill a drone. We can assume that even the weakest of zerg strains (besides the zerg/broodling) is much stronger than a single human. Modern guns might not do much to it (well except for those more high-tech ones). Without military support, we would be screwed if a drone comes into a city.

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Flying through space: Theory: wings that generate electromagnetic fields?
Perhaps they have some sort of mechanism that propels them through space, as in a 3 dimensional universe, not outer space.
By the way, the overmind could open wormholes in space. there is a radical property in starcraft: Warp Space. also, there is the Void.

Ripping through metal? seriously? get a rhino charging full speed at a car. WHAT HAPPENS?

imagine that rhino being a thousand times stronger.

 

How would a drone be the same size as a tank? In-game it's not much larger than a marine. Maybe compared to the smaller tanks, but larger ones could kill it just by running it over.

Also, a drone dies to 2 SCVs, or basically two guys with some armor and a large drill, and I fail to see how the drill would be more effective than most guns right now.

If we're going for realism, then the guns marines use arent really gauss rifles, but regular guns, since gauss rifles have no need for bullet casings.

 

Scv's are about 2 stories tall so a drone vs scv fight is not trivial.

 

scv are 2 stories tall? Were do you get that information, cuz ingame it's smaller than most units. I always understood it as just a super mech-utility suit/robot worn by someone to help drill through hard materials and lift very heavy objects in construction.

 

http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/game/unit/scv

I havn't read the books but many times i've heard reference from the books mentioning how large they are around these forums and others. It is all of those things you mention it's just the suit has to be quite large. Well ingame if it was that big the game would be terrible

 

Compare the scv and rine.
scv is quite a bit larger than rine. the rine (suit included) is somewhat larger than a human. quite larger actually.

A drone is slightly bigger than an scv.

A hydralisk. is pretty freakin gigantic, according to lore.

Now then, i WONDER how big, high-tech drills are stronger than a modern gun. HMMMmm.

A drone can probably kill the tank's crew before the tank kills it. i doubt it can be ran over and killed so easily. (I seriously doubt the cinematic where the 2 terran guys run over a zling, im just gonna it it was already really wounded, or was playing dead).

 

But in the SC2 cutscenes, the hydra isn't that big. It's full body size looks like around 10, maybe 15, feet tall, not counting length of the tail portion.

Ofc realistically Earth would be doomed because there is no way we could fight off a race that outnumbers us like the zerg do, and each of them is fully prepared for battle.

But for drone vs. tank, unless the drone's armor is strong enough to be immune to armor piercing rounds coming from the tank's main gun, I fail to see how it would win. But as seen in SC games, drones die easily to hand-held rifles, whether they are really gauss rifles or not.

 

There is some bad, bad science going on in this thread. Yes, Rockthedojo and 1n5an1ty, I'm looking at you.

 

It is realistic in the sense that biology can easily compete with technology. Your argument that "bullets are pretty effective against every living thing..." speaks more to the intelligence of the species than the fairness of a biology vs technology matchup. If an extremely advanced biological race were also organized/intelligent, it could compete with technology.

There is of course an inherent contradition there. If the race were intelligent, wouldn't it develop technology, no matter how advanced its biology?

Zerg though aren't intelligent/organized in that sense...rather they are controlled/directed by lone intelligence consciousnesses, e.g. the overmind, kerrigan, etc. In fact, when there IS no intelligent consciousness in control I believe the literature describes them as being fairly easy to exterminate and not the threat they otherwise pose.

 

wow this is interresting...... but when i played the campain those zerglings were like 2 times bigger than a civilian.......................i dont know where that leaves us xD
but i'd compare zerg units to civilians ^^

 

lol @ the idea of describing zerglings "civilians".

Apt analogy, by my brain is running off on a tangent with it. I'm having a re-imagined view of Starship Troopers citizen vs civilian political ads, but with a Zerg cast of characters.

 

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No, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Armor piercing rounds are nothing. Drones are
1) really big
2) OBVIOUSLY HAVE A LOT OF STAMINA (cmon 40 hp man)
3) Very powerful offensively
(all relative of course)

Guys, there hand-help rifles are a hundred years into the future. They can even be upgraded with uranium shell- ammunition ( i tihnk thats what is upgraded). So even those hand-held rifles are stronger than perhaps a tank. ever seen sci-fi movies???

 

I think your mistakes is estimating a drone's strength based on arbitrary measures (HP bars and how fast a futuristic gun might deplete it)

 

http://cdn3.knowyourmeme.com/i/6515...motivational-poster-1218659828.jpg?1248715819

 

Okay. Fine. its arbitrary?

Lets make it this then:

The drone is so powerful, one spine is enough to break the entire Earth. The drone is almost godlike in terms of stamina. When we see the rifle shooting it, its actually a few trillion bullets per round. there is a cooldown because invisible people reload the gun. :O

Not estimation! the truuuuuth