I was just thinking..

Discussion in 'Terran' started by aem1, Aug 30, 2009.

I was just thinking..

Discussion in 'Terran' started by aem1, Aug 30, 2009.

  1. aem1

    aem1 New Member

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    and i know this is old but since the Dark Templar Vote

    why couldn't they have done this for the ghost model, marauder or any other unit for that matter?
     
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    Because the biggest controversy surrounded the Dark Templar. There was a definitive split between two specific design paths, being the new design or the original design. The Ghost never had this problem, as its current design is pretty much the same as the original. The Marauder's a new unit, and has never even had so much as an alternative design, skins aside.

    The Dark Templar's really the only unit that falls into that category. The returning units have kept the same overall design, and the new units have nothing to be compared to, so there's never been such a scenario for any of them.
     
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    There where people complaining about the tribe look of new one so blizzard made it simple and had people vote. Random won and now we have it the way it is.

    The only other way you could really have this is if you randomize the firebat and the marauder but that would just be rediculous.
     
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    No that wouldn't work at all bthammer. The Marauder and Firebat are two different units with very different attacks. The two Dark Templars are the same unit with the same stats.
     
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    LOL... So ima build a a marauder/firebat... awww i wanted a firebat not a marauder... That would be funny.
     
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    The Nomad/Raven/Whatever also changed a dozen times. Blizzard just never really bothered to ask the community what they thought. At least not in the same way as they did with the Dark Templar. Meh, I think that having 2 skins for the same unit is stupid anyway. It only causes confusion. Further, what's the point? Dark Templars are invisible anyways, at least most of the time.
     
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    They only publicly changed it once, didn't they? And if anything it was fuelled by the fans' dislike of the original design, so didn't match the divide of the Dark Templar.

    And I completely agree about the rest, though they're models, not skins. It was a highly specious poll, and I'm sure most of the people who voted for a specific model would rather have the other over having both randomly. I mean, personally, I voted for the scythed Templar, what with it being better and everything, but I'd much rather have had the StarCraft1 design than a random mix of both.
     
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    Yeah, the dozen changes was a bit exaggerated. That's mostly pointed towards the ability changes. But I just can't understand why Blizzard never made a poll out of the Raven models. And shame on me for never noticing the whole DT models were different. I thought it was just the weapon that made the difference. I wonder who even came up with the idea of having both models in the game. Pretty high chance it was one of those people who worked on Warcraft 3. Half the (creep) units there had the same models, with just a few colour and size changes. Very annoying sometimes, especially when the stats were different for units with the same models. Good thing that Starcraft 2 at least won't have that problem.

    p.s. sorry for quoting so much. I just came back from a forum where half the messages are quotes. :eek:
     
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    i think people almost universally agreed that the nomad was fugly, so blizz changed it. kind of like how they changed all the terran buildings to look grittier. nobody really complained after the change, no need to vote about it.

    the DT was a pretty close split, though. the old DT was cool, and it was a classic unit. the new DT was cool and also had nice concept art to go with it.
     
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    I believe marauders, or ghost had only one "skin" so to say, so there was not much field for debate :p DT had 2 versions, and were, like the carrier, "sentimentally" linked to protoss fans.

    With the same level of comparison, I don't think ghosts were very "liked or used" by SC1 players in 1v1 games.

    @ asdf: that's okay, from his posts I can actually guess he is dying to see SC2 beta released. I can understand his excitement. :p
     
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    @ asdf sry fer that i wanted sumone to post :)

    and no im not dying im ok with the sc1 i have now but yes if it doesnt come out soon i will commit harikari is wat im thinking

    @ cabbage i want to comment about ghosts. i dun like them anymore :)

    i believe they are 100 hp, 10+10 damage? idk ill go check. but its become strong now
     
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    strong?

    isnt that about what the old ghosts damge was?

    and ghosts aren't made to be a another much better late game marine with invisability.
    Ghosts are suppost to be a suport unit that runs around with you marines and can cast
    spells that devistat the enemy.
    like locking down there huge air craft and making them usless for a while or taking all toss
    units shields down so that there that much easyer to kill.

    the ghost also has that hide in the shadows and destroy the enemy with nukes kind
    of game play thought but thats done much better with a support group for the ghost
    that draws the enemy back away from the target.
     
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    with its current cost I don't see much use for the ghost. Id be better off with 3 marines, same mineral cost and no gas :).
     
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    Well if your fighting a giant squad of BC or toss you'd want the 1 ghost instead of 3 rines. You would probly want a couple of ghosts if you were ganna fight like 6 or so (or like 1 ghost for every 2 BCs because of the energy thing.
     
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    It's actually a great idea to boost the number of existing model for the Ghost. Though, in the Dark Templar's case, having two models was essentially for Blizzard due to the lore surrounding the Dark Termplar's origin and the extent of their separation as a trible. Hence, we see one who specialises in the use of warp blades, and the other, a warp staff??..
     
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    Hmm and what would the other models look like? One with a pistal with a sight and the other with a giant rifle?

    I guess it could add some really cool CGI stuff, maybe a shotgun even?

    Think of a naughty girl with a postol or something, bow chica bow wow!
     
  17. cautionmike_190

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    but if you think of it Marauder's are the replacement of firebat i think, think of it if blizzard put back the firebat on the list??????, quite cool i suppose
     
  18. Gardian_Defender

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    the firebats would overlap (and do a very poor job overlaping may I add) the helion even though you can get the firebats earlyer the helion is way better, and I think the helion is the replacment of the firebat not the marauder.

    The marauder is pretty much just a super marine that can't shoot air units
     
  19. cautionmike_190

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    yeah your`e right