Sorry if I discuss this in a wrong place. Is it me or there are some similarity between Warcraft 3 and Starcraft. -The first antagonist are Burning Legion and the Overmind. -There always a Elder or old race Like Night Elf/Protoss before Human/Terran -There's an evil twist with the human character, Like Kerrigan and Arthas. They have become and replace as a antagonist. -The Primary Protagonist are completely opposite than the Big Organization/government like Dominion and Lordaeron and they are the "enemy" of this big organization. -The former self are betrayed by his own people like Kerrigan and driven mad like Arthas. That's all I can think right now. but Discuss
The Burning Legion and the Overmind have nothing in common, except that they are both evil. The Overmind was created by the Xel'Naga in their efforts to make the perfect creature. It was never meant to absorb all those races and go nuts. The Burning Legion is an army that intends to wipe out all life. The founder of it, Sargerras, was a fallen Titan who was formerly in charge of guarding all worlds. And the Overmind is just a big blob. Kerrigan went nuts because she was infested, Arthas was heavily influenced by the Lich King, who drove him crazy. However, you are totally right that most characters have stuff in common. Still, in my opinion that is a good thing. It makes for a great storyline, so really not much to complain about. I think. Also, the Zerg have no real enemies because they wanted to have them. They were created for absorbing other races to reach perfection. The Overmind was not a sadistic creature that just liked to kill people. And neither is kerrigan.
Actually I'm thinking about Archimonde, he has orchestra all movement of the scourge to reach their goal, like the overmind created cerebrates and the swarm to reach the perfection. Sorry Aurora but I haven't played Warcraft I and II. I just consider my self Warcraft 3 as a real canon but that's probably my way of thinking. Talk about Sargaras, Is there's a similarity between Xel naga and Sargaras? they both from the "Old world" (as in Pre Warcraft 3) Offtopic question: Do people really take the first two game seriously? I mean the storyline and canon. I'm about to quote more of your opinion but it's 7 in the morning. I'll just wait for 8 hours and wait for people to post more. ~ Take Care
The Xel'Naga are just a race that has mastered bio-engineering to an almost perfect level. For the rest they are not that special. Just regular sentient beings. Sargeras was chosen by the Patheon -counsil of the Titans- to protect worls with his divine powers. When he went crazy, his blade shattered and he became less powerfull because of that. So Sargeras does stuff out of pure madness and hatred, while the XN just seek knowledge.
Comparing Archimonde to the cerebrates is ridiculous, everyone has lieutenants. There are some similarities in the big picture as you pointed out, but the details is where is differs greatly. And i hardly think kerrigan and arthas are comparatable...
the zerg and scourge plans are quite similair(attack before they noticed you were there and then take over the inhabitants of outlying colonies), but i think it ends there
--wanted to know what it actually meant-- Well, I looked it up in several places just now. Naga basically means serptent, or in some cases the name is connected to an ancient tribe somewhere on earth. The name is also used in Dungeons and Dragons, even in several comics. Naga is just a good name for ancient, not to be trusted beings, I guess. No idea what Xel means, though. :s
Actually, I'm comparing Archimonde and Overmind actually, since they both are the leader of the enemy race. To me Cerebrates are Dreadlords, Lieutenant of the Archimonde/Overmind and commander of the Zerg/Scourge. Ah Aurora, now I see the difference between Sargaras and Xel'Naga, thanks for clearing this up.
Well, the dreadlords had control. You are right about that. However, the ones that led the Legion forces to battle were the Doom Guards, and the Overlords for the Zerg. These are just military chains, as found in just about any war themed videogame.
There is a difference between having zero intelligence and having no intelligence. Zero intelligence is an idiot a fool. Who fails at doing things because he's so dumb. No intelligence is like a rock monster. Can only do what it's told to do. Like it will mindlessly go and kill something you tell it to. And it will fight to the death and after the fight it just sits there because it doesn't have a brain to think for itself. I think the Zerg are a little but of both. I think they are not the smartest of creatures but I think their brains are twisted into the control of the overlord or kerrigan. So all they can do is what they are told. Kind of like a bee in a hive. Follows the queens orders unquestioningly like a mindless drone. And cerebrates are like the Queen of a bee hive. They have all the underlings under their control and they all follow without question again like mindless drones.
Sorry for bringing this thread up but I've got some information to back me up that Overmind and Burning Legion are both evil and share the common goal. Sources: Starcraft: Episode 3 - Shadow Hunters http://samods.org/node/183 That's what I thought about The Overmind, He just want to conquer all sector and annihilate all Living being and being one and only races all in Koprulu Sector. Same like Burning Legion try to annihilate who is try to oppress them. Of course this two faction are completely different in background and history but their mission are the same. Eliminate all life who try to against them and being a supreme ruler in all world.
Close, but not fully correct. They both also seek out the strongest races and try to bolster their ranks with them. However, the Overmind just assimilates them. The Legion offers alliances. But then you could ask yourself: get your race wiped out forever, or join the Legion?
I see your point in similarity, if you push aside the heavy lore in both games. Kerrigan takes over, Arthas Takes over, etc, etc. Kerrigan disappears for a while, Arthas disappears for a while, etc. The general goals and themes are the same, but then again, a lot of other stories have the same plot lines. If you don't look into the details of the lore in each game, you can find similarities. But you can do that with any game. I can find similar things between FFVI and WC3. It's completely normal though, I do the same thing. It's human tendency to relate new things with past experiences. When I played WC3 years ago, I tied the death of the world tree with the Overmind simply because it reminded me of it. So it's natural, what matters is if the lore is distinctive between the two
But that proves my point? You can't be completely original all the time, especially in plotlines. Someone is going to draw some kind of comparison about something similar, somewhere.
