Hey, so me and my friend are in the bronze 2v2 league and can't beat double terran no matter what we do. All they do is mass marines, sometimes not even marauders, and we can't win. I go speedlings to contain and banelings for when they attack while my friend techs to mutas, or also builds speedlings to help. Any help on how to beat double terran would help, because i cant think of anything. This is a new build we are trying that has beaten everyother combo its come up against except double terran. Anything you can do will help Thank You
Theres a ton of stuff to say here but the fact its a bronze league 2v2 premade thing I actually ran into this 2 out of 3 games I played the other day. Ive been coaching a noob I met and he talked me into 2v2s and twice all they did was mass marines. Its a really dumb strat and super vulnerable the thing that made everything work out fine for me was I scouted it before they attack... I went 14pool 15 hatch to my expo got that booming econ soon as pool was done send my first couple lings to cover all the watch towers wait a couple minute macro macro and drone like crazy cause i got all the vision. I did drop a roach warren and keep extra larva/mins in case i needed an army really quick. I sacrificed an overlord around 8 minutes to scout all the barracks and see they were just massing marines. Built baneling nest upgraded to lair and started to spread creep(2 zerg on a team spread that creep mofo). I dropped an 2nd expo after the upgrades started drone drone macro macro. I still only had like 6 lings and 3 roaches in my base and creep everywhere with like 3 queens around 9 or 10 minutes. Around 10 my 2nd expo finishes and Spire is almost done so I upgraded overlord speed and got their transport ability to be able to Baneling Carpet Bomb them also upgraded baneling damage/speed. They tried to push out around 10 minutes but i smoked 80% of their guys with banelings with speed on creep and I saw them coming a mile away cause of Xel'Naga similar to you having em But about 12 minutes I popped out 8ish mutas started to harass got my 3rd expo cause with mutas and banelings everywhere they arent going anywhere. So they never fully secured an expansion and I had 4 bases and like 30 mutas I flew in for the final assault and Bombed all their rhines with upgraded banelings and that was GG. My teamate did nothing like i said hes my noob in training. They were very easy matches if you know how to macro hard cause Terran is too easy especially at low levels to scare into turtling and starving themsellves to death. Back to your actual video... You and your buddy never really fought as a team and you spent all your minerals right there at the end on lings instead of turning the 20 lings you already had into banelings and you didnt spread creep cause Stimed Marines can easily kill a hand full of banelings without speed or creep with few casualties. So work on creepspread a team of Zerg especially need it for defense. Check out PsyStarcrafts tutorial for Baneling Carpet Bomb, its a super awesome way to efficently use your banelings. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWjRvzrFpFo
Make sure as Zerg you have corruptors in your army, preferably at the rear. Make use of fungal growth from behind your army to hit the enemy forces. Then use your blings to steamroll the infantry with support from your other units. They go heavy infantry use fungal growth with blings They go biomech, use coruptors with fungal growth with roaches, slings, some blings and a couple of hydras. Make sure you continually expand after you beat them off and tech up to ultras to mix into your army. More importantly than anything else.....put your armies together and move as one unit...do not separate until you have eliminated at leat one opponent in 2 vs 2. Watch their armies disintergrate before their eyes.
I'm a Terran Player myself but thinking of a good Baneling/Roach Build just makes me cringe (from a Terran point of view). :unsure:
for mass marines the perfect counter are hydras with banelings for mech as tanks and thors, do some muta harras which will make the terrrans go only marine and thors which you counter with hydras, dead simple
Thanks guys. Ive been trying out different things when its dub terran. But nothing seems to be working. Ill go scout and see multiple rax going up with one or no refineries, so i start pumping roaches or banelings(so does my teammate). and they seem to just build too fast. We have 4-5 hatcheries all with queens pumping units but we cant beat them. Cause they come wave after wave, adding medivacs and tanks then eventually thors. heres another replay of a game vs dub terran. Yes ik we didnt scout but we built roaches fast because we knew it was comming then i went for banelings but there was just too much. Anything else? maybe im just bad but i cant seem to win when its double terran
Try what Haivo said: Practice 7RR against each other and when you both get to do it well enough, then do it against double terran, I believe it should work. Tutorial on it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH1ucvJomlY
using zerg, against mostly marines, get Banelings and Infestors, you should be able to deal with them.