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Discussion in 'Gamer Chat' started by Rex, Aug 4, 2009.

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Discussion in 'Gamer Chat' started by Rex, Aug 4, 2009.

  1. Rex

    Rex New Member

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    Anyone got Heroes Of Newerth? I got a beta key and | need some help play haha X.x

    Anyways the only problem is where everything is and what is what.
     
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    Yea, I got Heroes of Newerth, a friend of mine gave me a beta key. I'm not very good at it though but if you need anyone to practice with or something let me know and I'll be more than happy to.
     
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    What is it?
     
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    Basically, Heroes of Newerth is a remake of the popular Warcraft 3 map Dota with a improved graphics engine and different style of heroes, items, abilites etc developed by S2 games. It plays almost excatly like Dota as well.

    Here is the website that really doesn't have much of anything on it: http://www.heroesofnewerth.com/
     
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    Oh, like Demigod?

    It's made by the guys who did Savage? Might turn out nice
     
  6. Rex

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    Yes indeed very nice! Reminds me of the coming of SC2

    Anyways All i need practice on it remember the items and which heroes are who

    (And Dota got screwed over by WC3 Patch so looks like HON all the way) I found my key when surfing the net LOL :D

    Add me Darkaznfx
     
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    It's kinda like Demigod in the fact it's the same genre of game which is a hero tower defense. However Heroes of Newerth is more like a direct copy of Dota just with an updated graphics engine and its own game.
     
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    I want this........snifle. Help.
     
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    I thought people who want to play a game like dota played dota.
     
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    Well, this basically is Dota but with better graphics and features, so why play the Warcraft 3 version when you can play Heroes of Newerth?
     
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    Actually I dont think HoN looks half as promising as DOTA: But I might be wrong.
     
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    Try it than say something guys cas like.... The Graphics are rape and some abilities so cool
     
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    I still think it will Fail. It needs a much bigger community (forums etc. etc.) and a team that is working on it constantsly (as with wow). Seems like the game is lacking in both.
     
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    What? This game is nothing like WoW at all and it doesn't need constant content updates because it's not that type of game. Heroes of Newerth is still currently in Beta too so not everyone has access to it and the NDA is still up meaning your not allowed to show any media of it. Also they have forums but since its only in Beta and they have a NDA only Beta particpants are allowed in it.

    Even with just the Beta and the NDA it has still has a pretty large community as it is now and will only grow when it is released to the public. I'm sorry furrer but your comments don't make any sense or have any reason behind it.
     
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    Ok two counterpoints:

    First, one of the key reasons why dota has suceeded is because of the constant game updates; would you play the same game with no new item/heroes in 3 years. To answer yes the game has to be fantasticly balanced and (!) have really many features. How many heroes are there in HoN?

    Second, one of the key reasons why dota has suceeded is because of the big community. You are right that a game should have time to develop a community, but IMO the creators of HoN havent done a big enough job to create a community (one of the bad things they did were the NDA). Just look at starcraft 2! All the work Blizzard has done for the community is fantastic. Icefrog is also constantsly upgrading the DOTA community, i. e. http://www.playdota.com

    So for me HoN is just a better grafic less community and gameplay game than DOTA. My main point for this game being a phail is that when you copy a game you should seriously get a better result than this.
    Wouldnt surprise me if this game slowly dissapears after it has been released.

    Hope you can understand me now.
     
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    I understood you in the first place. You do realize the first Starcraft is still being played after 10 years with no additional content besides bug and balance fixes which isn't content. Also a NDA is not a bad idea from many business standpoints. Almost every single company has a NDA for their games in development.

    The reason Starcraft 2 has such a large following already is not because Blizzard has outstanding support or PR for the community it's because Blizzard is very well known for quality and has been around for a long time.

    How can you even say it has less gameplay and community? When it is basically just like DOTA and has over 200 games going on the list at once which is even more than on Warcraft 3 and this is still in beta.

    Heroes of Newerth even has a lot more features than its Warcraft 3 counterpart like specific player stats etc.

    Anyway I'm not gonna keep aruging with you about this, because you basically said what you said in your last post just in more detail.
     
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    "How can you even say it has less gameplay and community? When it is basically just like DOTA and has over 200 games going on the list at once"

    Hmm, I think right now there are being played like 500 dota games. You forget garena, the chinese servers etc. - just so you know.

    How many heroes are there in HoN?

    "Anyway I'm not gonna keep aruging with you about this, because you basically said what you said in your last post just in more detail."

    As if you are any better - but lets just whine.

    "The reason Starcraft 2 has such a large following already is not because Blizzard has outstanding support or PR for the community it's because Blizzard is very well known for quality and has been around for a long time."'

    I would say it is a mix of both. Can you tell me any major other co. that has such a good support and cares so much for its community?

    "Anyway I'm not gonna keep aruging with you about this"

    Just so you know, I dont await an answer, I just like to write my opinion.
     
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    So you haven't even played the game yet? How then can you even make an opinion on it like you have if you haven't even tried it?

    Anyway, to answer your question it has all the items, heroes, abilities, etc like Dota does and I mean exactly it's just different graphically for the most part and the heroes and abilities look differently but they play the same way and you do realize that the creators of DOTA gave this company the go ahead to make this game right?

    It's not like the company just made a game to copy or base it of Dota, it's basically a remake of DOTA into its own game by this company and the original creators.

    Oh yea, another major company that has just as good support for its community and games if not better than Blizzards would be Valve and their Steam community.
     
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    "So you haven't even played the game yet? How then can you even make an opinion on it like you have if you haven't even tried it?"

    Oh lets close down this forum!

    Only answer from me, I can see you are interesting a flame mode, so Ill just dissapear, see you.
     
  20. Rex

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    Errr furrer doesn't seem like hes in flame mode and you shouldn't judge something like that if you never played it.

    Anyways it is a remake of dota because the creators thought Warcraft III engine was limiting the game.

    "You are about to play a stand alone DotA based game. We have asked IceFrog if he had any objections to this and he did not, he is ok with it. Heroes of Newerth contains both content very similiar to DOTA and brand new content of S2 Games' creation.

    We wanted to take a moment to share with you why it is very important you do not share this information with anyone, and to give some insight as to why we chose to create Heroes of Newerth:

    1. At S2, we're huge fans of DOTA, and were pained to see how it was being held back on the warcraft 3 engine. DOTA style gameplay deserves a stand alone game so competition can be taken to the next level. As a MOD, DOTA faces many obstacles and boundaries that a stand alone title like Heroes of Newerth does not.
    2. We also felt that the experience of playing and finding DOTA games online could use some drastic improvement. With HoN, there are many features and tools to make playing online (both with friends and by yourself) a much easier and more enjoyable experience. Your position as testers will help us perfect and fine tune these features, as well as allow us to see how they perform under various conditions.

    Our first portion of testing is to see the installer in action on multiple system configurations and to test our Master Server & Chat Server with multiple game loads. Please keep your feedback accurate and concise.

    You are free to communicate and discuss Heroes of Newerth publich, including forum discussions and talking to friends and family. However, the sharing of media relating to HoN (videos, screenshots) is prohibited and we'd kindly ask our testers not to disclose any game related media to those not actively in the Heroes of Newerth Beta. "

    http://beta.heroesofnewerth.com/main.php

    Edit: I understand what your trying to say as in this game didn't have enough effort put into it. Well it seems like it does because like its copied from Dota yes but they are working on new heroes, options, maps, Etc. yes it might not have as much work as Starcraft II but there's enough work put into it to make it work.
     
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