Glynnis Talken and Robert Clotworthy Will Not Be Returning

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Glynnis Talken and Robert Clotworthy Will Not Be Returning

  1. .. to do the voices of Kerrigan and Jim Raynor in StarCraft 2.

    http://www.starcraftwire.net/blog/comments/glynnis-wont-return-as-kerrigan-in-starcraft-ii/
    http://www.sclegacy.com/showthread.php?t=279

    Originally posted at SCLegacy.com:

    We have just received confirmation from Glynnis Talken Campbell in response to our Voices of StarCraft II editorial that she will not be reprising her role as Kerrigan in StarCraft II:
    StarCraft: Legacy would like to pay deference to the true Queen of Blades. We wish Glynnis the best of luck in her future endeavors.

    SCLegacy - The Voices Of StarCraft II Article:

    http://www.sclegacy.com/content/editorials-8/the-voices-of-starcraft-ii-131/

    There's a thread about this here:

    http://forums.battle.net/thread.htm...D6B84E4.app23_06?topicId=15276982305&sid=3000

    Hopefully, it'll get the attention of Blizzard so that they can see how the fans feel. Feel free to join in if you want your voice heard as well.

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  2. Ursawarrior

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    who ever did Queen of Pain in DOTA would be fitting for the new voice of kerrigan
     
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    I am a bit disappointed that not only Zeratul, but Raynor and Kerrigan too, will have new voice actors. Zeratul is understandable, because Jack Ritschel (?) has passed away. I am cool with Raynor getting a new voice actor too, it seems to me like Blizzard is almost re-inventing Raynor, what with his new look and all (and I happen to like the SC2 Raynor's look and current voice more). But Kerrigan too... Damn. The new voice actor better be good.
     
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    I knew about Raynor but not about Zeartul and now Kerrigan!

    I sometimes think that I would like it if the only thing they did about starcraft2 was change and get new units I can stand the old graphics but I wish they could get the old voices!
     
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    They need to get Jack Black to be Jim Raynor and Queen Lateffa to be Kerrigan
     
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    The guy who did Zeratuls voice died?

    No, he was always my favourite character.
     
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    Glynnis Talken was fired?...

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    What! Jimmy was fired! how could they!
     
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    Damnit Blizzard.
     
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    This may not be a popular opinion, however, I was always rather indifferent to Clotworthy's voice-acting as Raynor. But Kerrigan I WILL miss. This is an educated guess on my part, but I suspect that Blizzard is looking for an actress with a younger, sexier voice than Talken's. I refer you all to Kerrigan's ''new'' look, and I think you'll understand what I mean.

    http://www.starcraft2.com/images/wallpapers/wall9/wall9-1920x1200.jpg

    Don't you think she should pull on some knickers? If it weren't for Zeratul's ''conveniently'' placed scythe, well, oh my... The pose in that wallpaper reminds me of those characters in renaissance paintings whose naughty bits are oh so cleverly hidden by tree leaves and such.

    On the other hand, Talken's dismissal is a sign that the game's production is FINALLY coming to a close: usually the hiring of voice-talent is one of the last steps before completion. Who else thinks Talken may be asked to voice Kerrigan for a quality fan-made campaign? I think that would be brilliant if she did.
     
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  11. Glynnis Talken is a romantic novelist (female porn writer). I don't think Blizzard could find anyone to sound as "sexy" as she could if they told her to do so.

    And, why should an infested Terran who is the Queen Of The Zerg put on knickers?
     
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    What does the fact that she's a romance novelist have to do with her voice acting abilities? But more than just a ''sexy'' voice, I also mentionned ''younger'', and Talken sounds noticeably older. Now, I'm not saying anything against an older voice for Kerrigan(after all, the character has aged), but I suspect that it may be an issue with Blizzard. Also: I don't mind the highly suggestive artwork of Kerrigan, but I hope Blizzard doesn't rely on sex appeal to sell the character. That's what I'm getting at, mate.
     
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  13. It has a lot to do with her abilities. That's all I have to say.
     
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    I knew raynor was fired and Zeratul was dead, but now they are firing Kerrigan too?
    NOT COOL

    I have never been OK with a change in voice actors, but if the actor is dead or otherwise occupied then it is understandable, but I am pissed off because it was Blizzard that asked for voice actors, not the actors telling Blizzard to find someone else. What the hell are they thinking?
     
  15. Try making a worth while post for once. I don't think you've ever made one and you've already got 28 posts under your belt. There's no excuse at this point. I won't even get into the ad hominem and rudeness you've employed. Interestingly, all of which are the tactic of the immature or those who have no argument but don't want to show it ... I won't get into that here so I'll just say stop being such a terrible poster and make yourself worth the bandwidth you use.

    Here's some simple logic for you. I'll break it down into bite size pieces for you. *chop chop*

    Her major career shows a lot about her personality and interests so naturally someone like that would be better at "sounding sexy" given they have the voice acting talent .. which she does. Apparently, erotica and romantic novels are her forte. If she can write stories about that then she can give direction in her voice to that effect. It's simple logic.

    This is true for actors and they're very open about this. Naturally, such would apply to voice actors as well. I'd love to see you argue with such obvious truth that is plainly backed up by celebrity interviews; not to mention real-life experience. Watch just about any interview where an actor discusses "getting into the character of the role they are playing". Now, let's say Kerrigan's character turned "more sexy". Don't you think an erotica/romance novelist would have an easier time getting "into the role" given their interests, personality, and line of work and thus would do a better job by making it seem more fluid and natural? That's not even to mention the experience, wisdom, and talent that comes from that.

    I don't think there's anyway you can argue this unless you want to deny that "getting into the role" is a requirement for acting. You're welcome to try though.

    That's all I'm willing to give and it's more than you deserve ..... mate

    -- Think of Kerrigan's death sound. Perfect example.
     
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    @ Tychus Findlay : I think the term you were looking for, boyscout, was Stanislavsky's ''method acting'' (later expounded on by Lee Strasberg, Adler, and others). (Look those names up, because your post told me that you have no clue what you're talking about) Now, there are also other methods, and many actors that follow methods other than Stanislavsky's. In fact, many actors and critics find that Stanislavsky's Method has very little to do with acting. You mentionned celebrities like they're some kind of authority on acting. However, very few of them are worthy actors (and if we have to argue that point...). I suspect you've made a guilty pleasure of Hollywood Insider or some such rubbish.

    Anyway, read the following. Once you've digested that, I can send you some serious critiques of The Method.

    http://ezinearticles.com/?10-Reasons-That-I-Hate-Method-Acting-(But-Not-Method-Actors)&id=1929588
     
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  17. Pretentious reading failure.

    No, I "mentionned" celebrities because their interviews are all over the place and can be easily found. Stop putting words in my mouth if you're going to fail flat on your face doing so. It's AMAZING that you accuse me of being pretentious when you dropped a whopper of an example in the same paragraph. Why must all of the "trolls" here be such hypocrites? It's disgusting.

    But, I'm not a troll. Don't just haphazardly throw out the word if you don't know what it means. There's not a single person here that would say that I was trolling. You provoked me; not the other way around. Anyone can clearly see that you did .. not to mention you're wrong so I'm done .... mate. I already told you my last post was more than I was willing to give on such an off-topic, pointless dicussion with someone as rude and childish as yourself. I suggest you grow up, mate. It's about time. My post was far more than you deserved so be happy with it.

    .... what a terrible poster .... nothing but rubbish :)D) can be found in your posts

    And, the link doesn't work. Fail moar! But, regardless, I ran a few searches on "The Method" and all of the sources I found described it as revolutionary and other such superlatives despite me adding phrases like "problems with" to the search. Therefore, the votes are in; you're wrong. It has a lot to do with acting. The opinions of a few hardly matter in circumstances such as this when we're discussing something as objective as what we are. I'll trust the actor's opinions over yours any day because, even at their worst, they know ample more than you regardless of if they are "mediocre" or "bad" actors. Just the fact that many great actors who make acting their life's work agree with me is enough to put your silly argument to shame.

    But, might I remind you that we're not just talking about simply applying personal life lessons to acting. We're talking about an actor whose major career is writing romantic novels and whose personality and interests clearly augment the job of Kerrigan should that character go the way we are allowing. I guess what you're trying to say is that life lessons, experience, personality, and interests have no affect on one's acting of a particular role. That's appalling. Plain and simple.

    Here's the facts: logic, actors, articles, posters here, and life experience disagree with you. Can we be done with this? Or are you really such a glutton for failing facefloorhell masochistic punishment that you want to continue.

    I have half a mind to eMail Glynnis Talken about this just to see how you react.
     
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    Sorry to barge in like this, but this is the post I made of the official forums on the matter of getting the old voice actors back...

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    It is just me who thinks this has gone far too far?

    Firstly, neither of the voice actors should have assumed they'd automatically get the part. Yes, they'd definitely expect a greater look in than other actors would have, and they would have had that, but they should not have simply expected to instantly be given the part.

    Secondly, neither of them were outstanding voice actors. The voice actress for Kerrigan was noticeably better than the actor for Raynor, as can be seen with the other voices I found out she'd done recently, but the actual voice of Infested Kerrigan was so artificial she'd've been coughing up synthesisers. As for Raynor, shocking voice actor. I absolutely hated Raynor, and a lot of it was based off of what he'd said. Regardless of whether it was the writers' faults, it simply did not come out naturally at all. Long story short, it sounded like he was acting.

    Thirdly, Raynor's character has taken a massive turn in StarCraft2. For example, he appears human now, and the new character's starting to grow on me. Anyway, all that aside, it's completely understandable that they'd need to hire a new voice actor. I honestly couldn't imagine the new Raynor speaking with the original voice. It'd just sound too horrible, and look like a mismatched and poorly synced Veggie Tales character. As for Kerrigan, we've seen next to nothing about her, so who's to say she'll have remained untouched? Any change in the direction of her character could result in the need, yes, need, for a new voice actress.

    Fourthly, where is this to-the-death loyalty being pulled from? It's a voice. I mean, yes, it's understandable that it'd be a disappointment for the original voice actors, I can sympathise with their situation, and I do feel a bit bad for them, but as I said, they shouldn't've simply expected to return as the voice.

    Fifthly, we haven't even heard half the voices yet. We have heard Raynor, and the new voice is great and suits the character, though did sound a bit odd at times in the first campaign videos we saw, but it's nothing compared to what we had to endure in StarCraft1. And as for Kerrigan, we've heard her say, what? Five words or something? And I've heard that was the original actress anyway.

    I seriously find it hard to believe that there has been this much of an outcry over a change in the voice actors. I mean, it's not like they're going to replace them with Zoidberg and Alice Tinker, so what is it you're actually complaining about?
     
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    I'm not so upset about Robert Clotworthy so much as I am about Glynnis Talken-Campbell. She had the voice of Kerrigan nailed, and it's a damn shame to see that Blizzard doesn't want her. That said, I can deal with a replacement as long as it isn't the voice actress from the Zerg Release trailer; she sounded so awkward, it wasn't even funny.
     
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    Just putting it out there, it's already been said that Kerrigan's voice actor's done a bit of voice acting for Zerg so far. Just putting it out there... Haha.
     
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