Early GG, How Bad?

I was playing a game a few days ago (I was zerg, he was terran, map was kulas ravine) in which I was getting beat horribly. After he steamrolled my main with MMM and thors and took out almost all of my buildings except my g. spire, I said GG as I was pretty sure I was going to lose. Then I realized I still had my greater spire and 6 or so corrupters at my expo, morphed to brood lords and ramped up my expo and then proceeded to take out his army and base.

He went off on me for about 2 mins about being cheater/dbag/etc... How bad is this? And in that situation is etiquette to leave game even though I realized after the fact that I still had a chance to win?

 

Well first off, I never leave a game unless I am for sure GG'ed. Now by for sure GG'ed I'm saying all units are dead, unless all I have left is an expo and a couple workers. I will use all attacking units and throw them at my opponent until everything is destroyed at this point I will say GG because a few workers wont be enough to come back unless its really early in the game. This game sounds like it went late, props to you for turning a game completely around I would have done the same thing, but did he really have no base defense? I mean even if you are dominating completely I take that as a sign that the person I am attacking sent to my base at the same time (which happens to me all the time), and therefore learning from that I don't send 100% of my units.

Once again I say props for making such a surprising comeback, You opponent was really bad for complaining about such a loss, its his fault anyways. This should be the lesson where you learn its never GG, when you have attacking units left.

 

GG = good game =/= end game

amirite guys?

 

Not sure if its true, but he claimed that he stopped building units when I GG'd. As far as killing his army, I didnt realize my greater spire was intact and his army was pretty disjointed, so the brood lords did their work pretty quickly. I felt like a ****, but I would never stop playing until my opponent leaves regardless of whether he GG's or not. In future I'll just be more careful about GG'ing..

 

well, it's etiquette to say "GG" as a "I lost, your'e a better player than me" (or similiar, you get the point)

 

Yes. If you say GG, you are supposed to leave the game.

 

Aur that's a bit contradictory.

You can only deem a game good if you have already played it, as, for example, even if you have epic battles following each other, a disconnection will ruin the game and it will not get GG. Hence if you call GG then you consider the game to be ended, and since GG signals the end, whoever calls it first surrenders. And if the winning player calls it first then they are just (being?) a retard. An even bigger one than someone who doesn't call or second it *cough* Idra *cough*

 

or only seconds it if he wins, but never calls it if he loses.

anyways, it's pretty bad. it's the equivalent of typing in "ok, i give up. you win." in the chat, he celebrates while you mysteriously don't leave, and then you steamroll him while he's just messing around. while technically not cheating, from his perspective it's damn poor sportsmanship and an underhanded move.

 

@Kuvasz

I meant from the perspective of the one who is losing.

 

if you gg it means you give up and you leave, what you did was very BM if it was in a tourney or something the other person would most likely have been awarded the win

 

I've done this before but if i realise that one of my expos can still take the game i normally correct myself...bit of a moral dilema though since it could cost me the game warning him i might actually have a chance.

Guess its not as bad as people who are winning saying GG

 

I've done the same thing before. Called gg specifically in a 2v2 when my partner dropped, but I glanced around for a second and decided I could use what he had and what I had to win the match (and did for the record) However, don't let what he or anyone else said get to you. Calling gg is AS effective a strategy as lifting your CC off to high yield minerals at the start or anything of that nature. If you call GG and he stops fighting because of it, it's his miss not yours. He did lose because you cheated, he lost a (accidental) psychological battle. So, don't let it get to you. Do whatever you have to do to win. All is fair in love and war my friend. Also, I know that some people will argue how "fair" that concept is, and I would like to point out that even major tournaments don't have any explicit rules(as far as I am aware) against doing something like that even intentionally.

The game ends when you or your opponent LEAVES it, and not a moment sooner.

 

That doesn't happen too muich, Some people get nasty on there, but thankfully the chat options are limited, so you won't get some hater stalking you on bnet, or whatever. Happened sometimes in the first one.

 

Lol I think that's a bit extreme.

I do think its BM though, "gg" is pretty much widely accepted to mean the same as "I concede", akin to knocking over ur King in Chess (although I think that's binding to a loss).

That being said, it sounds like it was an accident. If I was in your position I would have apologised, and explained that I didn't realise I still had something to work with.

Still, I think he's just pissed cos he thought he'd won then he'd lost.

 

Meh, if you say GG you've thrown in the towel and the game's over. It's frustrating when someone calls GG and then I spend the next 20 minutes mopping up their expos they've spread across the map.

If you say GG, quit.

In your defense you called it a bit early. It's not necessarily BM because you had forces. But, still, I would side with your opponent saying yes, you should have left the game instead of continuing.

 

I did this once. Called GG after losing a major battle, all my troops, and map control. But I didnt realize that my ally still had a fighting chance and that I still had a lot of minerals banked to mass low tier units(I'm really bad at this).

we won in the end, I would say it was an early GG since my ally didnt GG and neither did my opponents.

 

I agree that it was bad etiquette, but it's not like the opponent wasn't at fault. He has no excuse to stop playing seriously, as the game isn't over until the opponent leaves.

But still, as a general rule, if you type GG, your next two key presses should be F10 and N.

 

I had a game kinda like this, except opposite way around; though, luckily, I still won it x). After my opponent said gg he asked me some questions about the game (e.g. how I knew he was doing what, and how to counter different things). Of course I gave him as much help as I could, but I was still building my forces back up from our last fight to make sure he couldn't turn things around.

Near the end of our conversation I took my forces to his base, and it turns out he was building up an army again! Even though I still beat him, I would've called a gg right back to him if he killed my forces, because it was my fault for not making sure I had won.

In your case, meh. I always try to do my best, and if I'm not taking something in account, then I think it's my fault if it turns around to bite me. But other people may not see it quite the same way x) so it's best to steer clear of any early gg's.

 

That is jsut what happened in World War 1. The Germans and Austrians said GG. And The British and French said sure ok fair enough. And shortly after they setamrolled the Germans and Austrians as they were retreating back home. shot them in the back bsically.

So making an offensive after you say GG is very dirty play. And it's for that reason if anyone says GG to me I quickly say "I don't believe you and prepare a full assault of their base.

Mind you if saying GG made you autimatically lose the game that'd be ok but it does not.

 

dirty playing....but were not playing tourney here so it shouldnt be such a big deal. you said the guy whined for 2 mins....should have told him to go have a cry.