Does the Terran need a new air unit or a better one?

I was wondering if people think that there should be more air support for the terrans. I think there should be a new air unit added to the terran's air. What do you guys think?

 

i want the goliath back!!!

 

I hate all the god damn air units in sc1 because they were weak

 

The air units in SC1 were weak vs ground (guardians/mutalisks/capital ships excluded). Wraiths and Scouts were very good at their limited roles.

Anyway, I'd like to see the Predator back. It probably won't happen, but if it does, the thor would become a pure GtG unit again. However, Blizzard suggested the Predator was a failure (apparently Intercept didn't work well, or something). Also, the Predator was pure AtA, which IMO is lameness.

 

Why isn't Banshee/Nighthawk/Medivac/Battlecruiser enough for you?

 

dont forget the vikings air form.

 

Wait why do Terran need more air support?

 

They're low on the ability to fight clumped weaker air units (eg mutalisks). Thors handle that, but they might not be mobile enough for that task.

 

A ****eload of Marines can't deal with that?

 

Powned. Rojo's right. And people were already complaining about this over ten years ago. Blizzard gave us the Valkary, but nobody really uses it a lot. The current mix is balanced enough, although I still will not accept that the bombard ability of the thor is gone.

 

The Corsair had the same role and, unlike the Valkyrie, was quite popular.

I think it's because:
1) It wasn't expensive.
2) It wasn't pure AtA. (Disruption Web only works on ground.)
3) It looks cooler than the Valkyrie.

Not as effectively as a thor or a Predator. The Thor does splash damage. I'm not sure if the Predator did to, but I think it did.

 

Dude, I loved the Valkyrie. I used that thing every chance I got >.>

 

i hope that the air units are all there but they just need to be beefed up a little
they seem kinda weak atm

 

people dont use Valk outa their own ignorance. There is one E member inparticular who uses his own Build orders for Terran and his current Mech build that uses Valks is undefeated.

 

I hate the Valkyrie and the Wraith they're only good skirmish units. they die too easy is what i'm saying they should still bring them back, only more awsome than they already were. maybe give them enhaced armor or increased attack rate, something to give them a longer life or atleast lower the costs because they costed just way too much.

 

It seems some of you are talking about SC1. I'm talking about the current SC2 terran air.

 

why are people talking about SC1.......and plus the air units in SC1 weren't weak!

 

Comparison purposes.

SC1 air units weren't always weak, but sometimes they were unpopular, or too pigeon-holed.

 

But at least the SC2 terran air units are stronger, and better than the SC1 terran air units. But they do seem weak against other air. But that's with the current air stats. But blizzard probably changed it so it doesn't matter to me.

 

Better? Stronger? In StarCraft I?

That's a bit hard to believe.

Compare the Viking to the Wraith. The Viking has an extra 5 hit points (not a big deal), does 20 base damage (the Wraith dealt 10 + 10 vs large when converted to StarCraft II terms), the Viking gains a +16 bonus to massive units (so 36 damage per hit vs battlecruisers, that's more than 1.5 times what a Wraith did to a battlecruiser). It's ground form does 10 damage a hit (a little more than the Wraith's AtG damage).

Naturally the Viking doesn't cloak, and that's huge. However, the Banshee does cloak, and deals triple the Wraith's AtG damage, making it a far better raider.

There's no easy way of comparing the void ray to the Scout, as the former's damage system is extremely unclear, to say the least. However, the void ray has an AtG attack that does not suck.

The StarCraft II battlecruiser deals 64 damage a hit (8 hits, little wasted damage) compared to the 25 damage dealt by the StarCraft I battlecruiser. That's more than double the damage, and the damage is still somewhat higher vs heavily armored opponents.

The swarm guardian deals slightly more damage than the guardian and creates broodlings. These might not deal much damage, but they can make it hard for enemy GtA units to move around.

As far as I can tell, the only clearly superior StarCraft I unit is the Corsair (way better than the Phoenix, IMO). The Corsair deals splash, and has an anti-ground ability that's useful in more circumstances.

So explain to me how the StarCraft II air units are weaker please.