Computer

Discussion in 'General StarCraft 2 Discussion' started by Asian Bullets, Feb 19, 2010.

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  1. Asian Bullets

    Asian Bullets New Member

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    Hi, I just say gameplay of Starcraft 2, and WOW, was I impressed. I just have a few questions. I currently have a Lunix computer, and obviously, Starcraft 2 won't support it. I will get a new computer in mid-May, and since I am HORRIBLE with computers, I don't know what will support Starcraft 2. If I was to buy... for example, a 700-800 dollar desk top computer, would you guys believe it will support the game? I've seen specs for computer and don't know how the work. I know there's graphic card, memory (the amount of memory that can process at once, or speed, right?), RAM (All memory storage capability), and that's it.

    EDIT: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...ssor/9699025.p?id=1218152464094&skuId=9699025 Just an example. Would a computer like this be able to with stand the game?
     
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  3. Terran Guy

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    It's probably not too computer intensive.
     
  4. DeckardLee

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    You don't have a graphics card so it'll run pretty crappy. That computer has an integrated chipset which is horrid for gaming. Should've bought it from another site. You could've gotten 3x the computer for 100$ less which includes a beefy graphics card.
     
  5. Asian Bullets

    Asian Bullets New Member

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    are you referring to the computer I linked? Because if you are, do you mind giving me a link to a computer less than 1000 bucks that can run Starcraft 2?
     
  6. ZealotInATuxedo

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    Asian Bullets, where exactly are you located? The US? I have some recommendations for you:

    1) Don't buy from BestBuy: they're expensive, and you get a relatively weak computer for your money.

    2) The best computers for your money (short of building it yourself) are those assembled by small custom shops.

    3) Buy your OS from ebay. I've bought several Windows 7 keys on ebay, and I literally saved hundreds of dollars. Yes, it's legal, and the keys were all genuine. In fact, I just bought a Home Premium key for less than $10. A shop can install the OS for you if you don't have the required dvds.

    4) My current gaming rig, which I bought last June, costed me $600 CND. I have a 3.0GhZ Phenom II 250 X2, a 9600GT, and 4 GB of RAM. I had it built at a shop. It maxes out Dawn Of War II at 1920x1080 while defragmenting the drive. I'm not involved in the Beta, but I know that it will have no trouble maxing out SC2.

    5) Do you absolutely need the rig NOW? By waiting until shortly before SC2's release, you'll be paying even less for the same machine.

    Just tell me where you are located, and I'll find a reliable shop for you. We should be able to design a computer for around 550-700 that will eat SC2 alive.

    ***OFF TOPIC***

    DeckardLee, I've never seen any SC2forum member whose reputaion oscillated more than yours. I suspect that you're a combination of a boor and a charmer.
     
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  7. Asian Bullets

    Asian Bullets New Member

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    I live in Seattle WA, but the idea you gave me seems a bit complicated for me. You're telling me to all the parts separate and bring it to shop so they can build it for me? Oh, and thanks for spending time to help me :]


    EDIT: I read your response over again, and this "key" your talking about cost almost as much as the DVD. May I get a link of this cheaper key your talking about?


    EDIT: http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-PHENOM-II-Q...ZViewItemQQptZDesktop_PCs?hash=item19b4f79a4d Is this computer the same as yours? Is so, your saying I can buy the parts separate and save $200?
     
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  8. ZealotInATuxedo

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    No, I wasn't suggesting that you buy the parts individually: that's no task for a novice. I was suggesting that you purchase your gaming rig from a smaller dealer, like those shops on ebay. I bought my rig on ebay, actually.

    Now, as for the Windows 7 keys, well, I took a look, and I didn't find any at $10, either. I remember when 7 was released ebay was flooded with keys, and they were going cheap... that may have changed. However, I do have a leftover key that I'm willing to part with. It's a Windows 7 Professional key that I have no use for.

    Now, what is it you'll be doing on this computer exactly? You want to play SC2, that I know... Are there other games you want to add to your library? Will you be storing movies on the harddrive, or maybe accruing an extensive music collection? I ask because the computer that you posted is really not for the average user. 1,000 TB HDD? It depends on your needs, but for me, that's just overkill. Depending on what else you'll be playing, you may or may not want a quad. Also: are you concerned about electricity usage? While I made my rig relatively energy efficient, this wasn't a concern of mine as I live in the country with the cheapest electricity in the world.
     
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  9. Asian Bullets

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    Once again, thank you for your helpful response. I will use it for music, videos (since I record gameplay on the Xbox), and Starcraft. Starcraft is the only game I am going to play on the computer, and I play no computer games now. If that is overboard, can you link me to a better suited computer on ebay? oh, and what is 1,000 TB HDD?


    EDIT: "suggesting that you purchase your gaming rig from a smaller dealer" So you're telling me, I can buy a computer exactly the same from best-buy, on Ebay and save a few hundred?
     
  10. CyberPitz

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    That's exactly what he is saying. You could build a computer that is powerful enough to play StarCraft 2 on Ultra settings for cheap. You could get it all purchased for probably 300 bucks, excluding a monitor, keyboard, mouse *which really aren't that expensive anyway...* My computer can do it with the following....

    E8400 Core 2 Duo @ 3.0 GHZ
    8800GT
    4 gig of ram

    Now, the 8800GT's are bought used for 50 bucks, that processor can't be more than 100 either. If you go to a small computer shop, they can purchase the right parts for you and then build the computer. you will spend way less than $1,000.

    The reason places like BestBuy and the likes sell worse computers for more is because they prey off the people who don't understand these things. It's underhanded and a jerkish thing to do. Unfortunately it's the price the uneducated pay. Coming onto forums and asking questions is a great way to get led to the light :)
     
  11. ZealotInATuxedo

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    I would like to slightly emend what Cyber stated about BestBuy: Cyber and I both agree that BestBuy is not the best deal. However, I don't think BestBuy is necessarily ''preying on the ignorance of the many''. Rather, when you purchase from BestBuy you are paying extra because 1) they're an established name, and 2) it's a convenience. However, since computers are such an integral part of our modern lives, I feel that it is really worth your while to learn a bit more about these machines --you know, how they work, what's the difference between the available technologies, what sort of computer would be best for your needs. That's why I pointed out that the computer you had linked to had a 1,000 Gygabytes Harddrive. The Harddrive, as you may or may not know, is where information is stored on your computer. Think of the harddrive in terms of a cup that you can fill with water. If we follow through on this analogy, the ''water'' is things like games, music, videos, word documents, pictures, etc that you have saved on your computer. Now, to give you an idea how big a 1000 Gigabyte ''cup'' is... well, it's not a cup... it's a bathtub.
     
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  12. Asian Bullets

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    Well, thankfully, I came to these forums, and met some very decently smart people willing to give a lot of helpful information and advice :].

    Cyberpitz told me to buy the individual parts and give it to a small shop to build, but I won't go through all the hassle and go with your method, to buy on E-bay. Here's two gaming computers from E-bay. The first one was the original one I linked, and the second one is a computer costing about 300 dollars less. They are both made by the came company.

    1. http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-PHENOM-II-Q...ZViewItemQQptZDesktop_PCs?hash=item19b4f79a4d

    2. http://cgi.ebay.com/AMD-9650-QUAD-C...ZViewItemQQptZDesktop_PCs?hash=item19b982d4a7


    The second computer disadvantages is the Processor Speed of 2.3 GHZ while the first ones at 3 GHZ and the Hard Drive Capacity of 320 GB while the first ones at 1000 GB. But after reading your response, I really only need about 50 GB come to think of it. So I save a total of $300 dollars with the only disadvantage that affects me being the Processor Speed which is .7 less? That's a huge save! Well, only if that .7 GHZ isn't too much of a difference.


    EDIT: Looking back at the Best-Buy link, it seems like the graphic card was the only thing that differs from these gaming computer, am I right?
     
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