Computer Specs - Bottlenecks

Discussion in 'Computers and Technology' started by Archangelclk, Jul 12, 2010.

Computer Specs - Bottlenecks

Discussion in 'Computers and Technology' started by Archangelclk, Jul 12, 2010.

  1. Archangelclk

    Archangelclk New Member

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    Ive been playing sc2 and during 2v2 and 3v3 my system lags during huge battles.(i saw 3 frames for 15 seconds to see my 200 unit army obliterated, this happened when massive units were on screen attacking) I have tried lowering settings from 1600 to 1280 resolution and tweaking from high to mid settings. I got this video card not to long ago and reading on the sticky thread for performance, this should be able to handle it, but still it lags badly in battles. I will be purchasing parts from one of the stores below.


    1)What is bottlenecking the game?
    2)For Price and Value what can I upgade to improve Loading time of a match and in-game performance?
    3)Also looking to get an lcd monitor - 22", any suggestions?



    PC Specs
    Intel P4 3.0GHZ D (first gen dual cpus I think, pretty old, not oc but with a Thermaltake Silent 775D Copper Heatpipe CPU Cooler)
    OCZ 2Gigs Ram PC-4200
    PowerColor Radeon HD4670 1GB DDR3 - 750Mhz
    OS WinXP Pro

    http://www.tigerdirect.ca
    http://www.canadacomputers.com
    http://infonec.com
     
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  2. Mako

    Mako New Member

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    The processor is bottlenecking the game, and its a single core btw. You could upgrade to a Duo Core which would probably make life more enjoyable in general on the PC, but with the old RAM and windows XP you might want to look at an overhaul with a new motherboard, win 7, DDR 3 RAM etc, to modernize it a little. At least get one of the older Duo Core processors by intel though and that should help a lot. You have to make sure the processor will be compatible with your motherboard socket however. Post your motherboard and i'll help you out :)
     
  3. rui-no-onna

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    My vote's on the processor. If your motherboard supports it, I suggest upgrading to a Wolfdale 45nm CPU. I wouldn't spend more than $150 on the upgrade though.

    If you can't upgrade the CPU, then you pretty much need to go for a trifecta of upgrades: motherboard, CPU & RAM. Good news is your GPU should be enough for medium settings so at least you can retain that. It is PCI Express and not AGP, right?
     
  4. Archangelclk

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    Thanks for the response guys, I think my mobo it is socket 775. I remember reading on the index when I bought it, that it could support these future cpus but not sure. Its a pretty cheap xfx one i got quick, as a replacement for one that was defective. I will post the exact model when I get home in 2 hours time. A cpu upgrade sounds good to me, now is there a big difference btw the dual cores and the duo and how do i determine which are wolfdale processors?
     
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  5. Mako

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    The Wofldale processors are the Duo Core processors such as E#### series. Yeah just post the mobo and we can see what CPU's you can upgrade to.
     
  6. Archangelclk

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    The Mobo is Nvidia nForce 630i
     
  7. Mako

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    Well you're in luck you can get a core 2 quad if you got the cash, but heres what you're probably looking for price/performance.
    Processor: http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicati...?EdpNo=4389472&csid=ITD&body=MAIN#detailspecs
    What Mhz is your RAM? This is the fastest RAM you can get at 2 GB, 800 Mhz
    http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_313_621&item_id=013783
    And if you really want more performance get 4 gb with this will help with multitasking, alt tabbing, and load times:
    http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=24_311_313_621&item_id=018158

    Total Cost if you choose to go 2gb with said processor:
    $224.96 (Really good for price and overall performance boost)
    + Rep pls :D haha
     
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    Awesome! I will go with this one the E7500 cpu, For ram I'm not sure, may pick up those $55 ones,

    This is my current memory, 2gb of OCZ PC2 6400 Dual Ch, are they alot crappier than the kingston ones?
     
  9. Mako

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    Actually that is DDR 2 800 Mhz memory, but you still might want to get an extra 2 gigs with the kingston RAM for some more power (4 Gigabytes RAM is almost standard for a gaming setup now-a-days). As for crappiness those are decent sticks. Good luck with the install, and don't be afraid to force the RAM just be sure the notches line up with the sockets. Should help out a lot :)
     
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    Win XP 64-bit supports 4 gb. Otherwise what you have will only utilize 3 GB give or take some.
     
  12. rui-no-onna

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    Seriously, don't bother with Windows XP 64-bit. Besides, you'd have to pay for it, anyway, and if so, you're better off getting Win7 64-bit. Even if the whole 4GB of RAM isn't used by WinXP 32-bit, you'll still see some benefit from whatever is added.

    To be honest, though, while 4GB or higher is ideal, 2GB isn't bad considering you're only using XP. XP is pretty lightweight and it performs pretty well even with just 2GB RAM as long as you don't have your PC loaded with junk. If RAM prices were the same as 2008 (2GB DDR2 for $20), I'd say sure, go ahead and upgrade. Now that it's back to $50+/2GB DDR2, I'd suggest just saving the money for a future upgrade when you're ready to go 64-bit. It's highly unlikely that you'll be able to recycle that DDR2 for a future build, anyway.
     
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    Great thanks guys!
     
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    Actually its a dual core hence the Pentium D.
     
  15. Archangelclk

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    Ya thats what I thought, but i think bc it was the first gen Dualcores its only 1 phyisical core and 1 virtual core or hyperthreading core, not sure though, just from my knowledge
     
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    Pentium D's have two physical cores. They're basically two Pentium 4's slapped together in one package. I think you might be confusing them with hyperthreaded Pentium 4's.
     
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    ya dunno, cuz when i do a dxdiag it says 1 core, or something like that, so i figured maybe it only recognizes 1 physical core and the other one was just a virtual core or something, as I heard a computer blog guy talk about something along these lines