Article: Why StarCraft Owns Warcraft 3

Discussion in 'General StarCraft 2 Discussion' started by MeisterX, Apr 15, 2008.

Article: Why StarCraft Owns Warcraft 3

  1. MeisterX

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    So my usual Google search of the morning turned up a nice little
    gem: an article about why StarCraft rocks the socks off of WarCraft 3!
    Perfect! Of course!
     
    Now this isn't meant to offend any of you WarCraft 3 fans, because
    it's a great game... But this article explains exactly why the
    StarCraft Universe has and always will own the land of the fairies in
    Azeroth.
     
    Enjoy!



    Let me tell you how an outsider sees Warcraft 3. It's two bunches of
    colourful units running in circles around the bush in the middle of the
    map for no apparent reason. Seriously, that's what it is.




    By contrast, nothing gets more transparent than StarCraft. You have a
    clear front line, or a couple, and units just keep pouring into it (you can have two avalanches of units smashing into each other four four friggin' minutes,
    now how cool is that?). When more units die on one side of the front
    than on the other, the line moves and you can easily tell who is
    winning.
     
    Read the rest of the article here. 
     
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    This artical was a waist of time and i'll be glad to tell you why. Unless your a 100% noob to blizzard games most people would know the difference between the 2 games SC and WC3.... SC is a war game where units can be lost and they get replaced just as fast where WC3 is a battle game where every unit counts and u have to babysit a hero as well. SC dose not have any worries like this so throwing units around dosent really matter. I personaly think this artical should of been tossed. I like both games and i'll even admit SC is a little more exciting to watch but they made WC3 sound very hard to understand and really its not...
     
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    I'd have to agree with that.
    Although I love playing the WC3 single-player campaign because of all those different heroes and items that you can collect, after finishing it, there is nothing else to do. The multiplayer is absolutely terrible. It gets boring soon and there isn't anything you can do about it. All races are very similar and when you get bored with one, you'll pretty soon get bored with the other ones.

    On the other hand, Starcraft is a very fun and diverse game, even without heroes and items and with only three races. It has all kind of units and all races are very diverse. So, when you get bored with one race, you can just go ahead and try playing with another one. The multiplayer is very fun and you can play in so many different ways. You'll never get bored with it.
    And now, with Starcraft 2 coming, we can surely expect more fun and diverse playing experiences.
     
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    I think this guy nailed on how WC3 and SC are watched. With SC, as he said, its a frontline. WC, its skirmish aftet skirmish.
     
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    Idk who's controlling, but I have NEVER seen a bunch of units running around in circles at each other. Sure, as was stated, WC3 is very skirmish based, not massive amounts of troops, but the game itself is more indepth, especially the economy. When you have massive armies within four minutes, well. That's boring. It's far funner to nurture a civilization to it's maximum power, bringing superhuman(Orc, Elf, Zombie) heroes up with it as well.

    In short, this is not so much an article as rampant fanboyism.
     
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    I agree with your last line.

    Just because the two were made by the same company doesn't warrant a comparison. The two are different genres and have very few things in common. He could've compared SC to Diablo 2 if he felt WCIII was something to compare SC with.
     
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    Well they are the same game genre: RTS but they are very different in structure since Starcraft emphaqsizes aremies and mass units while Warcraft 3 emphasizes your hero and an efficient strike force with efficient micro

    The two are comparable though since in both you gather resources to build bases and combat units to kill your enemies units and destroy your bases.
    The comparison is just as legal as comparing Diablo and World of Warcraft since both are RPGs where you kill monsters to gain levels and get better at killing monsters
     
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    BoP, you basically shift tact in that post. That's exactly it. They may both be RTS', but comparing SC and WC are akin to comparing apples and oranges - literally. Sure, they're both fruits, but Apples, you can just bite into, and you're good. Oranges, you have to peel the skin and divide them into smaller peices. You still get the whole sweetness of a fruit, but it's in smaller pieces.

    Damn. That comparison is uncanny.
     
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    Ah but you can can compare apples and oranges

    They are both fruit and they are both sweet.
    Also juice form both of them is sold at the supermarket.


    The point this article is making is that SC is better for spectators because of the differences between it ans WC3
    His position is that Starcraft is better BECAUSE you can be a total noob and know who is winning.

    This is his claim
    Whether it is fanboism or not you have to understand what he is getting at. His point is that Starcraft is funner to watch because it is less complicated that WC3 and it less subtle that WC3. Players might like the subtleties of WC3 but it isn't as fun to watch as a bunch of large armies railing on each other


    Frankly I think you are all missing the point of what he is trying to say
    He is not comparing the games from a players perspective like you or I would when comparing them. He is comparing them from the spectator's perspective. What would you rather WATCH someone else play?
     
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    I prefer watching WC, it's much more strategy oriented than SC. Sure, it's fun to watch huge armies wail upon each other, but there's no point, unless you just turn off your brain for the sheer bloody orgy of it all.
     
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    Sadly thats what most people are looking for though. Why do you think each Star Wars movie has a bigger fleet than the previous one?
    WC3 has more subtleties in it that require some knowledge of the game to pick up.

    In SC its all about whose army is bigger so you can know nothing about it and see Player A has more units and a bigger base than Player B. Its only a matter of time till Player B is wiped out

    In WC3 thats not as paramount since the Hero can turn the tide of ballte so quickly. In WC3 Player B can have 2 buildings left and along comes the hero and wipes out eh attacker long enough to rebuild
     
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    i think that dude is right about watching sc is more entertaining that w3. cuz we dont need to think as much when we watch sc, whereas we have to think more and see whats actually happening in w3.

    i just didnt like how he started the article. sure he can say sc is better, but he doesnt have to say "my opinion is better than yours" or "your opinion doesnt count"
     
  13. MeisterX

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    How is it sad? WC3 is like watching Crochet as opposed to, say, Soccer.

    Equal skill is involved, perhaps, but one is much faster paced and involves more excitement. Furthermore, the lack of rules and minute detail which may be beyond a casual observer's grasp makes it an easy to understand concept.

    I don't see where any of your argument arises from, Fenix. :p
     
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    There must be no comparition between those two games. Their strategies are different. Their gameplays too. Their graphics too, except if Blizzard decides to cut the saturation that makes the units and structures of SC2 more realistic.

    WC3 is a fairy novel. SC2 is a war .... novel.
     
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    He is right though. This was addressed to warcraft players, who already play the game. It doesn't matter what you think because you play it anyway. His opinion matters because depending on it he might watch one game or another and there's a difference.

    Doesn't that describe sc microing as well (save the colorful part)?

    I'd rather play the game rather than watch it but I think I'd go with warcraft. Maybe 'cause I just don't like watching soccer, it's incredibly boring most of the time
     
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    Personally, I prefer the science fiction setting opposed to the fairytale fantasy setting, but that's subjective to each of your opinions. Subsequently , I also prefer that my soldiers be using high powered assault rifles and tanks instead of swords and horses to deal with nasty creatures.
    Starcraft is also faster and bloodier, which I like too. Is that an indication of society's constant substitution of depth for blood and gore? Maybe, but then again I never cared.
     
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    You can't tell me that watching Crochet or Golf is less boring than watching Soccer. :p
     
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    Golf is definetly more boring than Soccer but that doesn't change whether or not Soccer is borring. Im actually surprised you didn't go the route of Saying Wc3 is Soccer and Sc Football. But I guess the world outside the U.S. would probably dissagree with that statemnet :p. Personally I don't watch either one, but if I had to choose one it would be Sc just because it seems like it would be less straining on the eyes.
     
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    I have to admit the title misled me. The thesis statement, however, clearly narrows it down to the spectator aspect only and after reading it properly today, I came to a somewhat different conclusion than what I said in my previous post. Whether I agree with him or not is a different matter.

    I don't play Warcraft but I play SC, yet I can imagine both being fun to watch in their own way. As has been mentioned earlier, in SC, a great number of units die and get replaced and so the emphasis is not on units but on the frontlines and their movement. In Warcraft, the loss of a unit is a key point concerning both gameplay and visual perception, and so the emphasis is on the units and spells. I have to add here that I don't think it's "thinking" or "knowledge of the game" that separates the two, rather the fact that people are highly visual types and tend to understand things easier if they are shown to them, as opposed to telling them for example. And since frontlines are larger than units, they are what catch people's attention better and are easier to follow.

    The two games are like the same thing in two different currencies, SC being shitty HUF for example :)D) while Warcraft being the GBP. You can pay for the same thing with the two and they give the same result (it being the RTS genre), yet the perception of spending (gameplay) is rather different (HUF32,000 vs. GBP100).
     
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    I'm really sorry for the post that i'll make, but Soccer (for me) is as boring as Crocket and Golf.

    Sport I like to watch : Canadian Football (I don't like U.S. rules), Rugby (I admire those sick guys very much), Hockey (Stanley Cup Chamionship only) and of course number 1 : Starcraft