APC (Armored Personel Carriers) as a possible unit in starcraft 2?

I just think it would be helpfull to have a armored ground transportation unit. It would offer a great ability to transport marines or other fleshy units safely into a certain area and maybe unload them giving your enemy a surprise as a APC filled he thought had marines was filled with firebats or something. APC technology even today is taken seriously and is still being advanced in many ways. In SC2 I can see it offering a dropship that didn't die from turrets. It could even double as a support tank. (unlike the siege tank.) APC's offer faster mobility to troops and added cover to keep them safe until they reach the battle field.

 

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Rhino Transport Tank, I believe was it's name.
3 years ago, Dawn of War was the game.

 

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You mean a tank that transports them yeah.

 

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yah a mobile terran bunker plus transport. shoots laser canons when marines are put in. why not blizzard?

 

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They're one of the biggest cliches in videogames, but I still like it. Instead of a whole new unit, how about an upgrade for the dropship that lets ranged units inside it attack outside?

 

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yyou would have to give the phase prism and overlords attacks too, which would suck

 

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Ummm.... Hillz, that's the second post that you made that was EXACTLY THE SAME!!!

Just becuase an idea is similar to another game does NOT MEAN ITS THE SAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, since the unit would clearly be on the ground and not able to cross chasms and/or fly.... it would be a prime candidate for having a light attack or allow Marines or units to fire from its interior.

EDIT: At the same time I don't think its necessary. Marines already move rather quickly and it will just cause extra balancing issues (i.e. the APC drives into enemy base, thereby taking up extra hits for the Marines its carrying).

 

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bunkers that are upgrade-able or possibly a whole new terran unit ?

Giving marines extra protection would be great, if not for the fact that unstimmed-marines dont really do much damage in the first place.

Problem with it is that it seems kinda like a "dumb" unit...as terran units were all about micro and exploiting specialized strength to create a powerful fighting force. With bunker-trucks its like a big dragoon except that it'll most likely not even be able to focus-fire.

 

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Taking this idea would be simply Copy+Paste from Command and Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars

I do say most of copy paste but this game came out so recently people might catch on. I also don't think this fits the feel of Starcraft. It always seemed the turtle type buildings were not mobile. It isn't cool to have a mobile bunkers that can cover the entire base quickly through use of wheels.

 

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STRYKER!
[img width=670 height=443]http://www.op-for.com/picture_of_the_day/Stryker155.jpg[/img]

 

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But that's exactly what the phase cannon does with the protoss. They can go into an energy mode and then move around the base and relocate. I personally really like the idea for the Terrans as well. I think it would bring an interesting dynamic in deploying static defenses forward and would be really interesting to see moving into a battle. I personally think that while the bunker APCs would be moving they would have to have some disadvantage as well. After all the phase cannons can't attack in energy mode and if the pylon turns off they go s'plody.

 

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cool pic but what do you mean? you like the stryker and you think they should model an APC in SC2 after it? A bit spammy without any explanation

 

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We got Dropship's already

'nuff said

 

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You can put a howitzer on a stryker
You can put a light machine gun (or a few) on a stryker
You can put a heavy machine gun on a stryker
You can put a grenade launcher (or a few) on a stryker
You can put a mortar launcher (or a few) on a stryker
You can put a missile on a stryker
You can put a rocket launcher on a stryker
etc...

The point is that saying we currently use APCs and they are currently effective doesn't matter. The current APCs can have a variety of weapons mounted on them for different roles and these roles are those of the siege tanks, vultures, goliaths, vikings in ground mode, cobras, etc...

 

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I'm tired of hearing about how Starcraft would be "ripping" ideas. How many ideas for units can you really have? I mean seriously, of course an APC idea is going to pop up. That does NOT mean it came from another game. If anything its a rip off from the ARMIES OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!! A game can take inspiration from anywhere. There is no such thing as a "ripoff" unless the unit is EXACTLY the same.

Even this said, I'm still against an APC for Terran because it will just create problems. Although the bunker does need some kind of updating. Perhaps allowing it to move wouldn't be all that bad??

EDIT: By problems I mean that the Terrans have quite a few armored vehicles and giving them more will create a balance issue. Especially if Marines and Medics can pop out of them as the HP of the vehicle drops.

 

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what if dropships can cloak!?!

unbalanced, but effective

 

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It doesnt have to be a new unit persay i mean you could give a siege tank that ability. Another bonus from it is that it provides protection against bio hazards like maybe psi storms and plague?

 

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what kind of a crappy tank doesn't have treads?

 

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a tank that is an armored personnel carrier and not a tank, of course! 8)

 

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1) don't quote pictures
2) it's not a tank, it's an Armored Combat Vehicle