3D graphics and game atmosphere

Well u all saw the screenshots...
They provoked me into registering and writing this post. Most people i know (me included) think SCII is too colorful.
I'm not even close 2 being pro in starcraft but i'm a loyal fan, and i want that same feeling 2 be in SCII. Now we can't have "same feeling" when a bloody savage slaughter looks like some scene from disney fairy tale movie. This is a grim savage brutal unforgiving sci-fi battle 4 survival of species not some fruity magic contest.It should look bleak a bit more...
U think its not bleak 1200000000000 zergs raping Earth and protoss coming 2 destroy few remaining survivors??
Would u in that case killed as many zerg madr-phukers as u can with your 100gigawatt plasma laser gun thing or would u paint it in nice colors and then start killing them... Terran should be more rugged, sharper and more straightforward in design.U think fagots like Armani will ever live to design an terran army tank or uniform in case of intergalactic war?It's a war of destruction not Paris or Milan fashion week. We have protoss 4 nice round pretty things, and it looks good on them.
Now a little detour ...
Most of u know what is DotA i saw the poll...
I have played it intensively during last 3 years.It's a great game if u have nice teammates and opponents (i have) who understand u and u understand them(more or less).Then it(DotA) unveils its overwhelming strategic and tactical beauty,but... when i first saw it i almost got a panic attack ,stroke and epileptic attack all in one because of the retard colors.I didnt want 2 hear of it 4 another year until i saw a few games of my friend and realized the depth of the game.There are many people who cant even look at DotA becouse of the cathastrophical graphics.Stupid plastic looking buildings look like toys... Whole of warcraft3 is seriously below avrage game (astronomicly worse than StarCraft) and if it wasnt from blizzard most of us wouldnt even heard of it.Dota as result has to pay the penalty of bad graphics but it idea is brilliant.
I just hope that brilliant balancing of races (i expect nothing less) will not be crippled by a few minor design issues.
If its balanced and "intelligent" i will play it but some ppl won't.
WHY DESTROY POTENTIAL CLASSIC WITH BAD DESIGN???


I'm not criticising whole game design (some units look great) just a few isolated cases(i.e. both terran command center and protos nexus look like weirdly colored dog p00).Starcraft has a huge fanbase even after almost 10 years and blizzard should pay more attention 2 fans instead 2 a few designers...I know its a compny but still.... SCII is made 4 the fans...


Plz add your opinions on game graphics and my post... Ty 4 reading and hope u can forgive my bad english.

 

calm down?

 

First you say that the game is to colorfull, and then you say its no problem if the game is just good balanced?????? And calm down

 

This wasn't such a great topic for your first post.

I would suggest you get acclimated with more of the topics on the forum before posting more rants like this. It's tough to really gauge your actual opinion and any credible points you may have made amidst all the clamor you put in your argument. You also seem highly critical and derogatory about the development of the game, and yet you call yourself a fan. Relax.

 

I will play it it if its good overall but it would be nice if it had similar atmosphere ... Gameplay is is the most important factor, but few bad finishing touches can ruin a lot of hard work.Dont u think so? And there is difference between playing StarCraft
and playing some other game.SC is "the" RTS... I dont want SCII 2 be just average...
But plz say your impressions of screenshots also

P.S.I am calm 8)

 

Hell I don't know what he just said but man it was hilarious

 

I wouldn't like to see you pissed off then.
The colours are like that because they are supposed to MAKE SURE you know who does the unit/building belong to, though I admit they may be too bright *cough*overlord*cough*
Warcraft wasn't bad only because of colours (imo) and you could see the direction they're going in in wc2, which already was quite colorful. The game may have looked "plastic" or "toy-ish" because of bright colors combined with graphics engine, which wasn't perfect, but made the game available for wider audience computer-spec wise. If I'm half-right as to what do you expect from SC2 looks, we would need high end computers to play the game, not to mention better settings.
I'd love to be proven wrong, but I don't think it's possible to recreate the exact feel from sc1 in 3D as of now

and lol @kuvasz

 

Well forgive me if i don't drool when i see new screenshot or unit on sc2 site.
I think that this is important. It actually has something 2 do with game,unlike st---d topics that discuss irrelevant things. All of u who think i'm 2 critical plz say what is important 4 u in a game; for me its: 1.gameplay 2. atmosphere 3.-10. empty 11. everything else
I just hope that we can all say what we feel regardless of number of posts we have posted before
IMHO some(not all) design sux, deal with it...
U can 1)insult me
2)say what u like and what u dont like and then insult me.
Please do the second thing.

 

i just don't like the fatass tumors on the overlord ;D

 

I DO KNOW what buildings i build ty and I try 2 see my opponents buildings 2,so there shouldn't be a problem with not seeing buildings or units because of colors not being bright enough.Overlord is also 1 of
the good examples of what im talking about.
As for warcraft3 i totally agree with u just didn't want 2 elaborate 2 much on non-topic issue. I was just making example for bad graphics crippling game, regardless of the cause.

 

nah. i think the visual looks fine... GREAT that is!. i really dont want them to be all dark and gritty. NO WAY! starcraft 1 doesn't look like sc2 because they can't simply not make it look better in 2d, but originally im sure they want the atmosphere a little "light" in the first place (especailly in the jungle environment). a LITTLE dark is needed in sc2 but not totally or it would be UGLY and LIFELESS. by the way the dessert terrain looks bright and colorful in sc1 im sure it will GREAT in sc2. xp

i think the terran looks the way they should be, i dont like them all pro rust and grit. they look fine right now they actually look STRONG AND POWERFUL.

and i think MAJORITY or most starcraft fans are true blizzard fans which mean they also like warcraft 3 and they see nothing wrong with starcraft 2 meaning the visuals for them like me still feels it starcraft 2 but just in a new way.

i think most people who complain much on battlenet are not really blizzard fans but starcraft original brainwash fans who think it is all perfect even in graphics department, they unfortunately also dislike warcraft 3 very much which i do not know why. so i really wish blizzard does not take them all seriouisly or else the game would only get few share from the majority.

anyway im a true starcraft 1 fan. but i accept changes as long as its not exagerated and i see the visuals just fine and i can't even see and feel warcraft about it. xp

 

calm down (SC part)

 

zeratul11,
if wc3 is so good how can a 2.5mb map be more popular than the game itself?
What is true blizzard fan?
And if u like fata$$ flashy colored fliers or plastic buildings thats ok
Has any1 played or seen homeworld 2? now thats visually great game (in its time,maybe even now).
I know it doesn't even have planet surface but design is excellent.And all colors have purpose,they are not just there bcoz some1 thinks that being bilnded by flashing light and tireing your eyes in 20min is pretty.

And i repeat "What is a true blizzard fan?"
It seems 2 me that u have no priciples when it comes 2 decideing what games are good, and u are calling me a sc1 brainwash, omg man u call yourself a blizzard fan. That says enough.Dont u dare write u didnt write that explicitly in post coz that is what can be concluded from it.Not that blizzard games are bad(lol),but branding it all 2 be brilliant by default is idiotic.If u ever knew what was sc about u could never say such words as: "they unfortunately also dislike warcraft 3 very much which i do not know why"
it is below average game.not below average game 4 blizzard but in general.

 

A "true" Blizzard fan is someone who gives them a chance to release the game, or at least the beta, before too harshly attacking it.

Providing constructive criticism would be the most productive way of correcting things right now, which is exactly the function of this forum. We submit monthly criticisms to Blizzard for their review. Otherwise we'd just be talking for no purpose.

Your post is a bit too critical and really offers no solution, which is why a lot of posters are disagreeing to it. And trust me, no one is insulting you here. I see that enough.

And having a larger post count doesn't make your opinion weigh more, but it certainly gives it credibility. That's the difference that needs to be understood.

 

I don't drool over games either -.-

I didn't mean not seeing them at all, but confusing. Like in sc1 orange and brown zerg could sometimes be hard to distinguish in the middle of the battlefield and that's what Blizzard wants to prevent with new colours. Though I agree, especially in the overlord case - that green bubble on it sucks

 

It'll pass. I remember when we first saw the zealot's blades changing colors everyone was like WTF WHY THE HELL DID THEY DO THAT IT LOOKS GAY OMFGSTFUWTF!!!! But now everyone's just cool with it.

 

I'm not cool with it. What if I get pink in multiplayer? OMIGOSH HE'S GONNA STAB ME WITH PINK BLADES SO SCARY
There shouldn't be pink in the game at all -.-

 

That's why they let you choose colors.

 

They do? There wasn't such option in wc3 ladder. If there is now it's great, but what if 2 players choose the same?

 

Then you'll just have to duke it out with them.