1 sunken colony vs 2 photon cannons vs 1 bunker + 4 marines

If there is:
- 1 Sunken Colony
- 2 photon cannons (no upgrade)
- 1 bunker with 4 marines inside (no upgrade, no SCV, no repairing)

*once the bunker collapses, the remaining marines does not count and cannot continue to attack*

Who will win the battle?

--- Let the debate begin ---

 

I'm tempted to say the photon cannons will win especially with lvl 3 shields. But if the bunker has a probe repairing it, I'm not sure honestly. Good question.

Edit: mc2 edited the post! With no shield upgrades for the cannons I think it would depend largley on placement and what the sunken colony decides to attack first.

 

and also have u notice that the "heat period" for photon cannons decreases as the cannons are placed closer to the enemy? what i meant is, if there is less distance between the cannon and its target, the phase disruptor (blue ball) needs less time to reach the target. hence more "blue balls" can be fired in a given time.

Whereas the sunken colony, as soon as the "tongue" sticks into the ground, it pokes back up immediately no matter how close the target is.

So in conclusion the photon cannon will definitely win if it's right next to the sunken colony. As the distance between them increases, the chances of the cannon winning are decreasing.

i barely use terran so im not too sure how effective is the bunker + 4marines

In general terms, I'd say the photon cannon is the best because:
- the sunken colony cannot attack air, and it's not a detector
- bunker with marines is not a detector
- photon can attack ground and air and it is a detector

 

sorry i kept changing it back and forth

 

the not a detector thing for the bunker is an issue in the earlier game. Terran defense works really well with a missile turret+bunker+siege tank layout with a probe to repair the bunker&siege tank.

Never underestimate the simple bunker since it can be repaired and soak up a suprising amount of damage.

 

yeah thats why i don't know if i should include a 'SCV for repairs' in this debate.....
bcos it basically can repair endlessly provided there's enough resources
but then again sunken colony regenerates health by itself, and protoss shield also regenerates.......

 

Shields regenerate really slowly unless you have a shield battery handy though. I'm still leaning towards the photon cannons with this, even with their rate of fire issues at range. With one cannon I think the cannon would lose every time but two I think could win more than 50% of the time at least.

 

yeah i was referring to 1 vs 1

 

Prices

1 x pilon(100) +2 x cannon(150) = 400

Hit Points: 100
Plasma Shields: 100
Damage: 20
Damage Type: Normal
Detection Range: 7
Armor Type: Heavy
Armor: 0

1 x creep colony (75)+ 1 x sunken colony(50) = 125
Hit Points: 300
Damage: 40
Damage Type: Explosive
Armor Type: Heavy
Armor: 2

1 Bunker(100) + 4 x Marine (50) = 400

Hit Points: 350
Armor Type: Heavy
Armor: 1
Damage 4 x 6 = 24


As you can easily see if you take the price into account its : sunken>>> cannons=(nearly)bunker

But... as stated above Cannons can detect invisible and attack air units
Marines can move
Sunken can only be built next to your base

Here you can see why sc is such an good game Units or buildingsare soo different they all have advantages and disadvantages and its really pontless to compare them to each other

 

nice analysis

 

Bringing 'facts' and 'numbers' into the discussion.... bah!

 

All of your numbers just want to make me send a fleet of carriers into that group of sunkens and such. ;D

 

ok sorry next time i will only post pure speculation.
Ignore my post above and read this one:

Rofl are you joking? its so easy too see cannons>> bunker>>> sunken

Cannons are high tech good loking building they have plasma shields and damn they are just imbalanced
Bunkers are not up to date even during the second world war they used bunker phhh they cant be good
Sunken ??is this building a joke? Its just some ugly looking meat no intelligence i wonder how ever somethink could be damaged by such an shity building. holy shit this thing is not even worth called building lets call it ball of meat

 

Good looking doesn't dictate how "good" something is. Concept cars look freaking awesome, ye they don't run.
Bunkers, yeah, they used tehm in the second world war. Why improve upon perfection? Cheap, quick, and extremely useful.
Sunkens completely pwn early units, from Zerglings (Hydros too actually), Marines and 'bats, and Zealots.

I'd say the Sunken would win, because it's relatively quick, and mad power. However, it's also limited in usefulness because of the Creep. For sheer versatility, I'd go Bunker, because you can build it anywhere, and have five SCVs pop one up in a couple seconds.

 

fenix you made me loughing
Please read the whole thread

 

Sorry

I thought your posts were made by different people

Now I feel like a noob.

>_<

 

I know check out my avator

 

Only problems with cannons is that they fire slow and can get rocked pretty quickly :-\

 

^ yes in SC2 im looking forward to more advanced static defenses from the protoss
what about a photon cannon that launches scarabs?

 

ROFL Gnom and fenix, your posts are funny as. This should be voted best thread ever, I'm still cracking up. Lol, good looking cannons ;D ;D ;D